146625-exile-bias

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Y U JEALOUS THO


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The species with no sexual dimorphism [the chua] isn't a disadvantage, really. Per discussion elsewhere, while it is rare in video games [though growing less so] to not have extreme sexualization of characters, it's not unwelcome to everyone. I do like one suggestion, though, of having chua able to wear either the "female" or the "male" versions of wardrobe items, rather than simply an "in between" version. While it doesn't make much difference at all to the combat armours, it could make a difference for civilian non-combat costume items, and could be especially fun if the players didn't try to restrict themselves to one or the other, but allowed chue of both sexes to wear both. Regardless, chua not having to be either breasts or shoulders, depending on player choice? Not really a down-side, to my mind. Mechari voices? I suppose that shows how I usually play with the sound low or off. I didn't realize the mechari voice emotes had no voices. And really, mechari voice emotes could be as simple as sampling a bit of the old modem chatter to play during speeches. It wouldn't even need a voice actor. Guards? Like Tex, I've seen lots of guards, but I have not been thinking specifically in terms of PvP "ganking," as my play-time is mostly on a PvE server. As for the lore, as I've mentioned elsewhere [above?], both factions in the setting come off as sympathetic, if you read or play both factions. Both factions come off as justified, if you read or play both factions. Both factions have individuals and groups that have done Bad, if you read and play both factions. Both factions are "grey hat" if you read and play both factions. Both factions are "winning" if you read and play both factions. Both factions are "losing" if you read and play both factions. Both factions have "cool" factor, if you read and play both factions. Neither faction has an exclusive claim on being the hero or the villain. Spaghetti Western, remember. Lots of "grey hats." As for the advertising, it's fairly obviously because their target market find the rebel underdogs a cool hook that will lure them to the game, where they can discover both factions. You can thank things like Star Wars, Firefly, V for Vendetta, Dune, A Song of Ice and Fire; there are lots of currently popular stories in Speculative Fiction which hold up the plucky rebel underdog of questionable morals. It's an obvious target for advertising.


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Think there's only two guards over there... and they're out of range of all the vendors. Don't want to give out Dominion secrets or anything, but there's a lot of unguarded areas in Illium that make flagged players vulnerable.

No need to change how their gear looks. They didn't with Asura and Charr females in Guild Wars 2. All they'd really need to do is add a feminine VO to the female choice. In defense of Granok feet being made of stone, their feet don't have a third toe coming from their heel, or a heel spike in the females. Their feet look as normal as your feet. That said, I prefer my Mechari girl's heel in the satisfaction of how painful it must feel to get kicked in the kidneys with a 4- to 6-inch heel spike. Hell, I say get rid of their shoes altogether. Give 'em Rowsdower leg warmers instead of slippers, that sort of thing.


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The Exiles are just as much bad as Dominion are good. Play both sides and see for yourself.

That would be fine... if it indeed does hide your FEET, rather than the entire boot like it does now. Until then, though, I will continue to support my bare robot feet and the heel spike being thrust into kidneys.


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You read that wrong. I made a draken but could not play him because of the hunch thing. Similar to how I could not play a dwarf in ddo because they waddle. I made a chua that i can tolerate, thus he is level 16 and not deleted like teh draken. :)


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How many animals have you ever seen? Have you ever noticed that there are differences between males and females in species of animals that aren't just "this gender has BREASTS and WIDE HIPS and HEELS and LIPSTICK"? You can make genders distinguishable without making the differences entirely human. All the developers did was make anthropomorphic rocks, lizards, and machines.


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Domi esper looks like a wow paladin. Are you high? Is that what you meant by godlike,  powered by the light?


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Not if you read the lore. In fact it's made pretty clear to all of those. There are very valid reasons for the Mechari having two genders. I suggest you read up on it. And no kidding to the second point, my point is that it doesnt matter.

Edited November 9, 2015 by Mental Surge


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Honestly, I disagree with a lot of points you're making. Yes, Exiles had a large role in the Wildstar Free2Play trailer in terms of screentime. However, I feel that the Dominion came across as more vibrant characters due to their variety and their "Evil Empire" archetype. I imagine the Cassians were left out of the cinematic to prevent confusion with the Exile's humans. As for the Chua phenomenon, I WISH so very badly that I could be an Exile and play as a Chua. While female Chua may be something to consider later on in the development of the game, I think the Chua's appeal is off the charts when compared to the other Dominion races. Mechari not having voices is something I'm not familiar with. The Mechari race never really appealed to me anyways. As someone who frequently 'breaks into' Illium, I slightly agree that your capital city's security is somewhat... lax. However, Illium is LOADS more intricate and beautiful than Thayd which is essentially a bunch of metal walls, some tents and a few dozen vendors. Thayd doesn't have many distinguishing features, so I frequently get lost despite having played for months. Per your final point, the Aurin exist as a prominent 'bait' race. By that, I mean they bring all the closet furries and weebs into Wildstar (don't try to deny it). Notice how they are infinitely more popular than the flagship race for the Exiles, the Granok. Chua exist as the Dominion's flagship race and are by far the most popular, most likely due to their manic and destructive personalities. While I agree that Exiles get more press in some senses, they don't really come across as anything more than the space hillbillies with some fanservice. This is coming from an Exile, btw. In comparison, I feel like the Dominion comes across as the Evil Empire that is staging an actual formulated campaign to oust these space hillbillies. Though, this is entirely subjective.


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Like WoW's goblins, the chua seem to be intended to parody industrial revolution England and the United States. Low value of [human] life, with child labour and low safety protocols for workers, intense resource use, and heady levels of pollution. As a narrative tool, they serve a satiric purpose. We the audience seem intended to draw easy parallels between our own Western industrial history [including the present day], and see it as a Swiftian satire. In the setting, few other species would consider them evil [except likely the aurin], but some would consider them amoral. In some ways they parallel the mordesh, with Science! [actually meaning technological discovery] trumping any value on life-as-life. Oh, and yes, my comment earlier regarding male/female chua looks was deliberately taking a poke at the sexualization issue, with regards to assumptions that "neutral" means "male," and the idea that "pink" and "huge chested" means "female." With chua body shape being neither triangle nor hourglass, but rectangle, they don't default to 'obviously male' any more than they default to 'obviously female.'  And I'm a bit surprised that anyone would assume the voice files are "obviously male" either: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em4Xfzz01UU

Edited November 10, 2015 by Gnapoleon


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Meh its not a uncommon issue in games though, Troll males are hunched where Troll females are not. My personal preferences is to play non-hunched characters though, although my main in WoW is a male troll rogue but i have to turn off the cloak cause it looks silly.

Edited November 10, 2015 by Wolfuse


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Rofl oh now i remember that quest, I had the doctor executed  :D


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Pretty sure that asking a forum moderator to make sure certain things go into a cinematic or PR project is probably not going to work out for you. :lol: :lol:


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Pretty much all of W* lore is "Rule of Cool" canonized. I find it odd that you'd single out this particular offense in the sea of possibilities :P


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The Dominion has them more or less on the run and they stay away from the core worlds because of it. On the Dominion version of the Gauntlet you actually get recruited to take down the Cartel game show site by Agent Lex (who is waiting for you at the end of the Shiphand). One price of anarchy is that you don't have a a strong centralized military machine to deal with groups like the Cartel, so the Exiles *generally* feel the brunt of their shenanigans.


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