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I get that you're frustrated, and that typing things out is cathartic. But please understand that we're all frustrated - Carbine staff included - and that flooding the forums with negative posts isn't going to make Carbine work faster than they already are at trying to resolve the problems. If there's one thing that Carbine wants right now, you can bet it's a smoother F2P launch. People have been pulling double shifts to fix the issues, and the last thing they need is for other people to be rubbing their noses in it just to blow off some steam. So, in spite of how you feel now, please put things into the perspective of the fact that when this is all sorted out, the fact that this F2P launch was so bloody frustrating really won't matter.


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And this applies as well. Unless you've actually worked with the tech or in the industry, all these "more servers", "try this", "I know how to fix" it posts are useless. No you cannot simply plugin a CDN, Amazon Cloud or add a second server to the farm. It really does not work that way. Take it from someone who has worked and various AAA titles.


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Make an MMO work without fault?? You must be completely new to MMOs with an attitude like that. I don't think I've ever seen an MMO launch that didn't have a multitude of problems. Like...ever. I've seen launches so much worse than this and yet people still throw money hand over fist at those games. Take WoW for example. Literally the most successful AAA MMO on the market for over 10 years. Almost every expansion launch they have major issues that are sometimes much worse than this (I'm looking at you WoD launch) and yet they still have players willing to wait it out and support them. It's because people know they have a quality game that they enjoy to play and they're willing to put up with stuff like that in order to enjoy it. Wildstar is in the same boat. Many people here believe it's a quality game that they want to play regardless of the issues at hand. You even see people in zone chat saying that once these issues are sorted out Wildstar will be a successful F2P game because of how good it is. And what was your issue with their initial launch? This is like the second time you've mentioned it being bad. I was there for it too and myself and other people I've talked to don't recall there being too many issues aside from a few quest bugs here and there and graphics glitches once in a while. Yeah servers went down for maintenance once in a while too, but again, what MMO doesn't do that with a launch. Their initial launch was actually a lot smoother than this one though to be honest. Probably because they had a ton of servers and a much bigger staff back then, but I digress. A lot of people here aren't giving them a free pass. We're just tired of seeing the same threads over and over again of people complaining about lag and servers offline and saying this is why Wildstar failed and this is why they're going to fail again, etc. (Btw, it's not why they "failed" to begin with, but that's an entirely different topic.) Just cut them some slack and don't jump all over them at the slightest issue. Too many people these days will complain about literally anything.


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I want to like your post. But I'm an Evertonian. And you have a Liverpool FC logo. I'd need to shower afterwards ;)


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But it never helps screaming and shouting at someone. It wont make them listen to you more. A lot of problems that people come to the forums and scream about, they already know about because people report things in a proper manner or they notice things themselves. They do watch how the server runs and try to fix things fairly quick. The screaming people create another problem which just poison the community with a crappy attitude and atmosphere, and doesn't provide anything positive for the game or fixing something for the game. Regardless what they scream about. Imagine yourself. If a group of people stand and scream bad crap in your ear, will you perform better? No. It's a distraction and you start to shut down. I must admit, what you're saying about your own experience make you sound like a "fanboy" though. With a blind eye towards all the shitty stuff that has happened in the past with other games. I can't say much about it since you only mention WoW, which have had major issues in the past. Wildstar definitely did not have the worst launch, by far. And no, it's not been the same mistakes again, as far as I've understood the problems. A recommendation for you as well. Put more effort into trying to understand things, before shouting. It'll make your life smoother in many areas. Understanding is key.

Edited October 5, 2015 by Alysion


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Now you're just being ignorant, sorry to say. "none of them shut down people complaining instead they took it onboard and fixed it." - You don't really know that. Back it up, please. It would be really interesting to see. "this is their SECOND launch, thats number 2" - Every launch, re-launch, expansion, patch can have issues. "they have lost ALL rights to have a rocky launch" - Seriously? I haven't slept much today, so I'm just gonna say it.. That's just stupid. You cant be serious and sit and say that people have lost their right to make mistakes. "the amount of time they have had to get shit done right." - No amount of time would've been suitable to people regarding what happened. They would scream anyway.


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First off, you are not giving negative feedback, you are simply mad and complaining; there is a difference. Second, the forums are not a place for people to tell everyone how bad the game is and most other successful MMOs have site devs that ban the heck out of negative commantary. Just head over to the forums at FFXIV and you'll find that quite common, even though their game is successful. Silencing unwanted whining isn't going to kill the game, but not silencing it could.

Edited October 5, 2015 by Krystyn


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Then you're not doing your job pretty well, I think. Working in security you might deal with people and while doing that you need to be able to manage them in a good way. If they scream at you, it's possible You're part of the reason why. But it kind of depends what you do though, if "in security" means watching some screens and co-workers or your boss scream at you. Well, less fortunate situation for you, bud. No, a dead game is a game you cant start or login to anymore. Wildstar? Still alive. I was raiding successfully with other people while seeing other guilds do the same thing. So what I payed for, was a wonderful experience well worth my time. If you cant be arsed to pay up and play something good, well, that's your choice. You don't have to be so judgemental about it. But I wonder who the fool really is. The one that payed and played while it was "dead", or the one that Want to start playing a "dead" game.. Shall we leave that question unanswered? ;) Oh, you didn't comment the link I gave you. You give me something to read, I give you something to read. You give and take. Now bend over and read - Click me and read, Reavyne

Edited October 5, 2015 by Alysion


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