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Can only assume you're referencing Douglas Adams', "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"? Or at least I'm hoping so. B)


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Hey, there are those of us (like me! D:) who have been around since before launch and never left. It's not just folk who bought a long sub and then left.


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The mount and title have nothing to do with how much you have spent. Players will be receiving them without having spent another dime past the initial box cost.

Surely you can see a difference in attitude between a player that sets up a recurring subscription and one that intentionally prevents his subscription from recurring? While I'm on your side about short lapses, not acknowledging that difference makes your narrative come off as disingenuous.

Its so much easier for them to be precise in forum text than in a livestream, so I also continue to hold out hope for that. The only reason I can think that they wouldn't use the more lenient criteria would be something technical. Like if they are checking a flag somewhere that trips when the account goes inactive but doesn't have any information on how long the inactivity lasted.

People really need to look up the definition of arbitrary. There is nothing arbitrary about rewarding an unbroken subscription (the existence of the reward might be arbitrary if it didn't coincide with some other event, but the criteria absolutely isn't). On the other hand, the June 15th deadline for the rest of the items is completely arbitrary.

Its almost as if the rewards are for maintaining a subscription and not loyalty.

https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/126784-feedback-f2p-announcement-faq/page-37&do=findComment&comment=1326772

If I understood the livestream correctly, each CREDD purchase (for $20 from the website) will count towards the Loyalty Points program. I don't know if thats all they will get or if DaOgre was referring to something else, but they certainly aren't being forgotten.


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What do you suggest, that they allow people to pay for months they missed in order to make up the difference? And Carbine has already drawn the line, and you're not happy with it. If it's going to move at all, it'll remove the caveat that the subscription has to be uninterrupted, and you won't be happy with that, either.

It's clear that the criteria refer to eligibility to get the mount and pet, and isn't stated as a definition of "loyalty". Similar verbiage appears on the FAQ sans the word "loyal":

You're hanging your entire argument on being outraged by Carbine's "audacity" to not consider you "loyal enough" as a ploy to get something you're not eligible for, just because you want it.


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I think it is wrong of you to vilify all those people who payed for a year subscription and in your words couldn't be arsed to cancel it. I payed for a year subscription, I haven't cancelled it and when it renews carbine will get another years worth of subscription/signature time out of me. I never plan on removing my subscription until the servers get shut off. But I'm the bad guy because I will be receiving a mount and title that you aren't. On my phone so I havent quoted your original post.


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I'm curious why you think someone who lapsed for less than a day did it wrong....? Edit to add: The more I think about it, the more I think it's likely there was a stretch of time that my sub wasn't active. I can't verify because they don't display anything beyond 180 days (this needs to be changed!). If that lapse ends up being more than 24 hours, I would gladly accept that I did not meet the requirements. But if my sub lapsed and was repaid in the same day, then honestly, it would suck to not count.


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Demanding that something you are not eligible for be given to you is not the same as something being "in demand".


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The above is exactly what I'm worried about, and I hope Lethality is right. Back in November, as I've posted about a few times in various places recently including this thread, myself and others received an email from NCsoft telling us our subscriptions were "successfully cancelled" - no change in billing information or anything like that, so it was a complete mystery to me as to why it happened. I checked my account history tab and it now says my account time began November 4th when my subscription was cancelled, and became active on November 5th. I'm worried because it doesn't show my subscription date prior to that November glitch, and I'm worried about the fact it now says it became active on November 5th. I do have a history of various tickets I've made dating back far beyond November, as well as posts here on the forums and activity ingame to back up my subscription history, but I'm worried with a line drawn like this that simply won't matter. Glitches like this, which were completely out of the control of the player, should be taken into consideration when decisions like where to draw a line are made. I know the world won't end if things don't work out for me and other players in situations like mine, but it definitely makes me feel sad to think about as well as disappointed about losing out on something at no fault of my own. When I saw the appreciation program announced it made my excitement overshadow my worry about the F2P transition...when I remembered what happened in November, well, it's back to the worry. Here's hoping things work out.


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What actually speaks for itself is your statement here reveals that the mount was "in demand", by you, as soon as it was announced. Yet you previously said it was about the wording, and the loyalty, principle, etc. I believe you even said at one point that you didn't care about the items, and claimed to agree with somebody else that said the same. Earlier in the thread you did the same thing. So then what you're saying is, it's not about the wording, it's not about being upset about how Carbine sees you, it's just that you have a demand for the mount, and are willing to glaze over and word-play it with "Carbine's audacity", "being insulted", and "loyalty/principle" in order to squeeze your way into getting it. Also, thought I'd address the other quote as well -

TexArcana was one of a handful I've seen state that they didn't care about the mount, but instead cared about the title. Granted you said *almost all* complaints; but if they shift to give some the mount, what about those that want the title.


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Yes, you guys are confirming it up in here that you only want the mount. Can someone list all the things these guys are getting and like stick it on their signature? I'll do it later. You are all being rewarded for the time and money you spent in here. The FTP stream covered how it would convert into loyalty points you could use to buy stuff later on when FTP arrives. You also get an exclusive pet, an exclusive decor item.....The only thing you don't get is a title (That none of you are crying over) and a mount (the reason you guys are on here masquerading about #NotLoyal enough.)


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Meanwhile i was online everyday and paid just as much as your friend but i'm not eligible. #Carbinelogic. ;)


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