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Name me a few other MMORPGs that has open world sandbox PvP using spacecrafts. If you really enjoy or want to try a MMORPG that has sandbox space warfare? You have little option but to play EVE. If you want a theme park action MMORPG? Wildstar isnt the only option hence some potential players are lost.


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Oh come on, i dont think you need a citation in order to believe WS right now has a critically low population. I can see you are a staunch supporter of this game, and so am I. I'm just facing reality while you are trying to avoid it. If this game doesn't pick up any steam after drop 3 hits, this game will probably be F2P or B2P. I would personally rather it be B2P as that's the lesser of two evils.


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Ofc i dont know any of the information pertaining to their costs, operating costs, etc...i don't work there. If I was, I would be have been raising hell there until management fires me for misconduct. That does not mean I can't have an educated guess on the state of the game. I can think for myself based on past and current experiences. To try to illustrate my point as an example. If Starbucks were to start closing stores left and right....would you not think that they were in trouble? I would surely not need to have insider information to form a pretty accurate conjecture about it. There must be some huge discrepancy on how you are experiencing the game vs I and others who agree with my point of view....which does happen to be more than players who believe what you believe. No, I did not make this up. Go ask in Zone chat and you will get the same responses as me. Player population is low. Also forget about PvP....PvP in this game, for all intents and purposes, is dead. I'm not trying to reinforce anything. I'm not spreading FUD, I AM enjoying the game for what it is....but I'm not blind, I'm being objective, and I'm just being realistic about this whole scenario. This is SWTOR all over again. It's defenders adamantly asked for proof.....when the proof was right in front of them. I did buy CREED once. Honestly, I am actually pretty amazed how people are actually buying so much of it. Last time I checked, which was today I think, it was only worth about 10p. 20 bucks for 10p is a ripoff. With how easily plat is acquired in game...20p would be the minimum I would sell my CREED for if I buy it again.....and no, I don't want to give out handouts to Carbine when, imo, they will be going B2P or F2P in the future. If you were to tell me that giving Carbine a handout will avoid them going B2P/F2P then yah, I would give it. My 20 bucks, nor yours, won't change their fate. Speaking of CREED, this one was one of their most intelligent decisions. It essentially works as a force multiplier for their pockets. I hypothesize that if it wasn't for CREED, F2P/B2P would have already been announced. SWTOR sold about 2 million at launch and went F2P hybrid in a year. Wildstar sold about 500k (rough estimate by Maytree in one of his threads based on NCsofts quarterly earnings)......how long until it goes F2P/B2P? Unless a miracle happens and drop 3 brings back at least half of those who left. My guess would be sooner than SWTOR did....specially since 3-4 months into live and population is already so low. My educated guess, if they don't announce it when Drop 3 hits. They will announce it in Drop 4 which would land in about the 6th-7th month time period. If that doesn't happen, PM me and I will gladly open a thread on how I was wrong about the whole thing.


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- NCsoft launched 13 MMORPGs from 2003 to 2014 in NA of which 7 of them was shut down (over 50% closure rate) - Auto Assault lasted only 16 months before closure due to a lack of subscribers - On sept 2008 NC West president stated in an interview that Tabula Rasa is a triple-A and is here to stay, even with a lack of subscribers. 5 months later Tabula Rasa closed down - Tabula Rasa lasted only 15 months before closure due to Richard Garriott's departure from NCsoft - Richard Garriott sued NCsoft for his termination from the company. He claimed NCsoft forced him out by forging his resignation announcement, which he later won the ruling twice - All previous P2P title such as Lineage 2, City of Heroes, and Aion were converted to F2P - City of Heroes announced its sudden closure, with paragon studio (dev team) being liquidated. The announcement came as a shock in the MMORPG industry since City of Heroes was doing well finacially, and its a seven years veteran MMORPG which created a very loyal fan base - City of Heroes closure leads to the kickstart of City of Titan, an MMORPG under developement by City of Heroes fans (see how much they loved City of Heroes and NCsoft doesnt give a shit?) - Wildstar is the only P2P MMORPG left standing under NCsoft Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCSOFT http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/09/11/massively-speaking-episode-215-red-sunset/ http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/09/24/tabula-rasa-is-triple-a-and-here-to-stay-says-nc-west-president/


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