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You mean half of the vocal minority here on the forums?Most also said that cash shops are bad and that many will not buy items for the fluff... just look at what Carbine latest action did. Some even bought 6 boxes to get their fluff, some who said they support the gaming industry are buying off grey market sellers to get the codes cheaply for the mystery boxes... So yeah I would love to see wildstar go b2p that way i can get more friends in, and the current population looks willing enough for a cash shop so lets go.


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Fully agreed. Mounts, skins, pets, costumes, leveling buffs ... Sadly, I do think they'd try and monetize some Housing aspects since it's such a big draw for so many players, but that's the nature of the beast.


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How much longer will Wildstar players be "your population" once that B2P Blackbird game goes into alpha testing this summer? :lol:


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Well, in truth the items are really only $5. But that still doesn't mean I'm happy about it. I guess I've been out of MMOs too long (I quit SWTOR before it went F2P and WoW before the cash shop). When I signed up for this game, I never dreamed that the company would try to get me to spend money above my $30 a month (for the two subs). But here we are, and I guess I'll have to make do. As I've already admitted, the raids are just too good for me to quit, so I guess I'm hear for the long haul as longs as the raiding experience stays the same for me. The fats cats in the game are an eye-sore to me (because each one represents Carbine manipulation), but there aren't any in GA, so I guess I'll live.


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That is nothing positieve and it keeps people away, if you want to kill the game then that would be the way. What WS need is a more population i don't care if half of them would not pay a dine. The more healthy the game looks the more willing people will be to invest in the game. With the latest actions I really wonder about CREDD, people we might have bought a CREDD would now buy a box and sell the item for a much bigger turn around. I know quite a few players who use credd because for them the monthly sub is expensive. On Jabbit the CREDD prices were high already...


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I know for a fact Rift and SWTOR actualy have more people that pay a monthly sub after they went F2P then before they did. Really all it changes are the benefits for your sub and creates an increase in population. Sure there are some folks that don't sub and will not pay any money, but if that means dungeons and pvp is popping then it's all good.


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I was under the impression that Roda not only meant game time as in subscription time but also time spent farming for plat. The person who buys CREDD from another player is getting game time; the person who buys CREDD from Carbine is getting time in terms of time saved grinding plat. The whole "time is money" adage and whatnot.


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Honestly I still try, but I don't put as much effort into it anymore. I can and will only speak from my own experience and this by no means is the entire potential playerbase, but could hint at something underlying now: After the pull from Australia and the follow up news of the box promotion, people I was talking to about coming to Wildstar pretty much shifted gears from "eh, ill give it a try" and got the trial that i pointed them to or were considering just buying a copy to "I will wait for it to go f2p/b2p". So they pretty much are just waiting at the gate now instead of subbing...


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Seems audio does not start till 28:30....you have not missed anything up to that point tbh http://www.twitch.tv/queuetimes/profile/past_broadcasts


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I do not doubt your good intentions, nor do I doubt your sincerity. You clearly feel very strongly about this. But the reality is that this sentence demonstrates exactly the kind of thinking that is entirely too common around these forums, that tries to substitute passion for feasibility as if somehow they're interchangeable. They aren't. The tragic reality is that you were just fine with them early last week and they were being the MMO you love. However many fistfuls of dollars you were already throwing at them for being such a loveable game wasn't enough to keep the game on the shelves.

...Would this be a bad time to once again note that these items are for sale in the auction house for in-game plat, and that you don't actually need to spend a dime of money to obtain them? Because if they had wanted it to be locked behind real world currency, they could've made it BoP. They didn't.

When you're thinking about budgets, view it as an in-character worry that your character has about where they're going to get the plat to buy such a rare and expensive status symbol. Since your character can in fact buy it with plat, and the person who is riding one past you may well have done so without spending a real world dime on it. And then instead of having your immersion broken, you will be one step closer to RPing your character! One of us... one of us...


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