113793-break-up-letter-to-carbinencsoft

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I agree completely. Everyone hearkens back to "the gold old days" of Vanilla WoW and yet they can't be arsed to figure out new and difficult content much less grind out some rep to get an item. While I won't say WS is without flaws, we all know it has them, its a ridiculously good MMO with the best combat available bar none. The issue is that people get this perception that its terrible because they don't like X or Y and enough people have left at this point that its going to be very very hard to remedy the damage already done. I for one have no intentions of leaving the game and thinking the combat is mind blowingly good. I couldn't possible go play some tab targeting, slow paced, single button macro rotation MMO and not with for this combat system.


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Naz, this is the way your posts are coming across on this issue: Players: "We want hardcore raids!" Carbine: "Okay! Give us a while -- okay, nine years -- and we'll make those for you!" Players: "Oh, turns out we didn't know what we wanted. Sucks to be you, I guess!" Carbine: "WHAT?!  No! No! You can't do this to us!!" ...and then you say that the problem is that "MMO players are at fault for not knowing what they actually wanted." But it's up to the product developer to track trends and make sure he has a good idea of what's actually in demand. It is in no way the consumer's job to keep him informed of their changing tastes, nor to buy a product they might perhaps have been interested in at one time but no longer want. It's up to the product developer to accurately judge the market -- it's not the market's responsibility to keep him informed and give him time to refine and adjust his business plan. When you say stuff like:

...I just can't take you seriously. Blizzard knew many years ago that most MMO gamers were not dreaming of hardcore raids -- that most of them could honestly care less. Wildstar is not "everything MMO gamers could have dreamed of", not by a long shot, and it is not even close to "What we once wanted" for the vast majority of gamers. Generalizing a few hundred whiny ex-WoW players griping about how the game isn't "their game" any more because of all the casual filth around these days with their "welfare epics" into "everything MMO gamers could have dreamed of ..[and]...what we once wanted" is just...just... Come on, it's just WRONG. I can't come up with any better word than that. It's wrong. There never was a time when very many MMO gamers dreamed of and wanted 40 man raids. Never.


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that is hardcore


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