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I think that this happens with a number of people, and I know that it happened with me in my first guild. If you reply to this, I would ask you a couple questions... 1) What is your approximate AP? do you know what the approximate DPS that everyone was doing in the group? 2) Was it an entirely new run (5 new people)? Did you ask for help in lfg channel or zone? Did anyone research mechanics? 3) Did you ever kill ST? I will say that vet STL can be frustrating because aethros and the first boss (bladsomething) don't have terribly difficult DPS checks. ST does. If you aren't bringing enough deeps, it doesn't matter how well you execute the mechanics, the super fast lightning phase will probably kill you. For me, when my guild wiped on ST for 2-3 hours, it made both me and the rest of my team evaluate whether we were geared enough to do the instance. Many were still in adv blues (which are pretty bad in comparison to crafted) and we are all around 2000 ap. We just didn't have the dps to reliably take down ST Getting to the AP that you need to beat ST isn't impossible for new players, it is in fact quite easy (I crafted someone a full set of heavy armor that put them at around 2300 ap before runes. With runes, and the better weapon that they didn't have they would have hit 2500 ap easily, more than enough to take down ST). But it does require research and a small time commitment to farm some gold or runes. The people in this game are incredibly nice. When I was doing my attunement sans a guild a group offered to run vet Skullcano with me and explained all the mechanics and made sure that I got my attunement. I crafted a set of armor for a guy for free the other day because I had the time and the extra cores and I like to see people succeed at this game. There is tons of help and encouragement that the higher leveled players provide to help those who might find the initial difficulty of dungeons daunting, you just have to ask. In other news, it will always make me giggle to read the OP versus what is happening on page 10 of any given thread. Also to the people who were having trouble with ST if you are on at the same time as me and I am not raiding, I will personally help you with the dungeon (talk to Tys Tyson or Wey Morne)


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To echo Kip, the scene is massively different nowI too remember hating STL because my first WS guild was terrible, we wiped for hours on ST without result despite me doing everything fine. I quit that guild after having one of those nights for like the 3rd time. :) Silver is normal for pugs, and I've golded STL with pugs maybe 5-6 times now. I suggest you give it a try, I expect you'll be pleasantly surprised. Oh and they also greatly increased the drop rate for epics, making dungeons well worth your time. Just today I got both the DPS and healing 70sp/ap implants in STL, that would have cost me what, 50p-70p+ each pre drop 3?


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