146408-suspending-subscription-until-runes-fixed

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I mean yea, obviously they are going to incentivise paying them for their massively expensive game world we can all enjoy for free now... If the only problem is that raid runes are pricey / slow to come by then that's not the worst. I was under the impression there were actual breaks in the system causing runes to either not function as intended or broken set effects. We may not like F2P, but I'm at least thankful Carbine didn't take a leaf out of Bioware's book and literally micro-transact everything in game.


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I get that, but this only affects raids no? Nothing else in game? I get that runeing is important for raids, but I don't believe that you need a perfect rune set to start GA, I also don't think you need a perfect rune set to finish GA (please correct me If I'm mistaken, I putzed around in GA a while ago but never spent much time with it or any of the raid content really outside of streams). I kind of doubt seriously that runes are so bad you can't use raid level gear with out perfect sets immediately, but I defer to you and other raiders Jeff, you guys deal with new guild members who do have to gear up and see the problems they face so I'd say you all are probably the best judges of it. I would think that the easier atunement and more challenging / time consuming gearing while in the raids would be a welcome change over the past system of hardcore atunement and runes being mostly cheap and much less important... but again, I leave that to people who actually raid to think about / decide. EDIT: as other's pointed out, raids are pretty much the pinnacle in the game, so I wouldn't expect them to be easy to gear for. But There's also a fine line between challenging and requiring a time investment and tedious or exorbitant. I know my perception of it is skewed much more towards the latter, after playing XI for over a decade where there was no middle ground (or easy ground, for that matter).

Edited November 6, 2015 by Nazryn


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Hmm lets see because before 90% of power came from hear now 90% of power comes from runes.


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Most of the complaints are coming from the "old" players. If you are going to come to the forums an put across your opinion, cut out the crap attitude. Acting like a muppet invalidates anything worthwhile you might have to say.


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Lol, funny :) Seriously tho, it sounds like the problem has as much to do with end game PVE difficulty as much as it does the actual runes. Sure, difficult means players aren't sleepwalking thier way through and complaining about how boring it all is to them- but the "tone" I am starting to gather from these threads is making me think that I should just be content to keep doing PVP for now-even if I get still get rolled every other match, I'm doing well enough in the other half to have fun. (Silver lining for others here- with luck, maybe they can make the PVE rune grind a little bit more like the PVP rune grind and bring things back down to earth for you.)


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