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Who said anything about raid gear? Do you realy think they will have raid gear in the cash shop? Pay to get attunement done...YES damn right..that i hope is in the shop. BUt I am almost certain they will nerf the attunement into oblivion..cause it is not something that a F2P crowd will ever want.


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I think what he's saying is that a lot of people who used CREDD only used it on a month-by-month basis, so, for example, someone with 6 CREDD on their account might use 1 CREDD to get 30 days access and the first time they log in and find that their subscription has expired, they use another CREDD, rather than using all 6 at once for 6 months worth of game time. Although, the same can be said about subscribers. There are plenty of people who get a 3 or 6 month sub and then cancel so it doesn't renew, so they can choose whether or not to continue subscribing rather than it being automatic, even if they're intending on continuing with their sub.

Actually, you can know the date that access expires by looking at your account page. Edit: Thanks for editing your post - I had no idea of how to get rid of that white box. :D


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What does lapsed means can you ss your TH and your Subs like me


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Honestly I just think they made a mistake calling any group their "loyal subscribers." That's a PR failure. Calling any group loyal is going to make people outside of it think they are being called disloyal. ArenaNet made the exact same mistake with a one day stress test for their GW2 expansion... you think Carbine would pay attention to the missteps of other companies but I guess not. And now that the cat is out of bag so they can't take it back.


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Personally I find it slightly different when the supply comes from other players who has worked for said item. Their choice whether they want to sell it or not, but the plat gets processed into the player economy. It isn't much different from paying in a cash shop, but it just somehow feels better to me.


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What if the mount ran over their baby though? I mean there are no babies on nexus other than pell(that ugly stick got to them first) after all... I think it's fine for people to be a bit upset over it, but same time I'd like them to either support ideas for solutions or offer them. Can't say I can get behind outright rage though...


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No, no, your teeth have been kicked. Take a look in a mirror, you'll see the bootprint. ;) More seriously, I will repeat: 15-20% of the playerbase are completionists. To the 80-85% of us who aren't, which includes myself, this is no big deal and much ado about nothing. To the 15-20% who are, this is like being told that something that matters to them will now be made unavailable to them based on actions that they have already done, have no way to fix, and were not told would have this consequence. To them, this is like being told retroactively that if you subscribed continuously since launch, you can have access to the endboss in the next raid tier but otherwise you can't. The funny thing here is that Carbine didn't have to do this at all. If they'd just left out the mount and title entirely and had the remaining Player Appreciation stuff for players to buy the game before the transition to F2P or maintain their sub through the transition, none of these complaints would even exist. It would be the same nice thing for everyone to stick with the game through the transition. But no, they just had to make sure that there was a little something extra for only a small subset of diehards so we'd all know how much more appreciated they are. :lol: A friend once told me that if Carbine rescued a box of kittens from a burning house, they'd find some way to make it look really like it had been a bad thing. He's a wise man, that friend. ^_^


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When they do, it will generate another wave of upset and unappreciated players like Infused here. We can call it: Crabcrawler 2: The Reoffensening.


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I could see that kitty mount also being added to the store. It might not get added to the store soon. It seems to happens to exclusive items when a game goes f2p. I'm going to be sad when I see my grave stone sword skin in the store.


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I did say that it wasnt a recurring sub, but that doesn't mean i wasn't subbed everyday since release, they can see that i was subbed every single day, the scenario you mentioned is not what happened. In other words my complaint is.. You paid 180 dollars since release and i paid 180 dollars since release (sub cost)... One is considered loyal and one is not, because it dropped for a few minutes because he wasn't using recurring sub... That is not how you define loyalty.


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Well, the cash shop should be there for everyone... but, why not make those items available to subscribers for gold? Don't get me wrong, there may be a ton of technical, logistical or other reasons, but I think it deserves a discussion. Effectively erase anywhere you see "Omnibits" currency in the game, replace it with gold for subscribers.

Ok, now proceed to poke holes so we can tighten this idea up :)

Edit: Jeff hit on the sentiment: Collect extra money only from free players, let subscribers just play the game and have access that way without dealing with the extra currency.


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N-Coin is NCSoft's default cash shop currency and is required because they publish this game. They do not want you able to grind out currency for their other games by playing Wildstar, so this makes sense. Omnibits is Carbine being ultra cool and allowing us to do it in their game, without affecting NCSoft's other titles. That being said, Wildstar has way too many currencies as is and contracts and all the vouchers and whatnot only made it worse. Hopefully we can push for some currency consolidation. It feels like we're farming 15 different things on live already.


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You're selling boxes right now which allows people access to the game which means they can get through raids. You already sell things that do this. Hypocrisy! /sarcasm  :P This is completely humorous and not serious at all. I don't understand why people get so worried about P2W when we don't really have many modern or western based games that do that ever.


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Not currently, though this is pretty normal for how these two types of currencies work in other games (think of [insert MOBA here]).


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{| style="width: 100%;" Regarding rewards for players that played since the start. You guys said that CREDD users would be eligible for the mount and title for playing since launch. However CREDD users will use their CREDD when prompted. This means there are at least a few minutes where their account has surely lapsed until they log on again and activate their CREDD right?Will their be any grace period for players who used this system? Or for players who were unable to keep their account from lapsing for a few minutes because of Carbines own technical client, official website, account management issues? Things like these are not "insanely" important. But you guys are going to get some negative feedback if you don't provide some kind of grace to your terms. Especially if it wasn't the players fault.

This is a great example of someone who deserves not to have their rewards stripped away.


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I'm glad not selling. Just hope the general progression of not making content as difficult or grindy doesn't extend to raids. TT is awesome for the raid content he has given out so watch out, his awesomeness may deflect your punches. Just sayin. Another question, I see that can get bonus xp and stuff like that, what about bonus rep so the rep grinds for amps aren't as bad. Will we be able to purchase items like that? Also, make contract rep trade ins account bound thanks.


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Again, my situation is that for a while my sub wasn't renewed and I could access the forums game because of an error on Carbine's side. I didn't KNOW it was on Carbine's side, so I tried some things on my end, including canceling and immediately re-purchasing my sub. I sure hope that doesn't count against me, but I'm worried any automated query the will use to determine if my sub has lapsed will get triggered.


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I'm missing the mount for missing 0 days, obviously not loyal enough  :rolleyes:


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No. I don't wanna pay one year of sbuscribtion because i missed it by few hours. And 2) This mount is supposed to be exclusive to players who play the game since launch non-stop.


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