148615-so-dominion-and-exiles

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You've just named a faction and individuals, proving my point. QED. There is shown to be a lot of conflict through out the entire Celestion Arc where Myala and Arwick are constantly fretting about whether she made the right call, given the push back. I'm not being over dramatic, I'm responding to the original claim that there was NO dissent, and that NO ONE disagreed with the queen. I've sufficiently shown that's not the case, even you presented lore and groups that show that. "No". There wasn't a lot of conflict, through out the entire Celestion Arc, because you mainly only see the Queen when you flee, when you deal with the drilling Mordesh (for a short second), an when it's time to pick a Matria for Sylvan Glade. And only the 1st example touches on fleeing Arboria. And that's just one brief moment after she says that she's tired. Between then, you're mostly doing work for Arwick....in relation to Draken invaders, the Lopps in their Village, the Torine, Mordesh, and Moodie related stuff with random NPCs. You're lying once again. Especially because you're responding to me, like I made the claim that "not a single Aurin ever disagreed with the queen." Like that accusation is relevant to what I'M saying. Which it isn't. Yes, 1) common sense and 2) the consistent lore mentions of Aurin not wanting to help the Exiles, including but not limited to Arwick Redleaf, the second most powerful Aurin in the game politically. Again, you're expecting me to believe psychic rabbits resupplied the entire Exile fleet never knowing anything about the Dominion or conflict when a clearly battle damaged fleet showed up at their doorstep. Myala may be intensely naive, but the Aurin are quite intuitive and smart. So no proof? Hiding behind a lack of evidence that you mislabeled as "common sense", and your proof that amounts to nothing more than "It's out there trust me guyz!", doesn't fly. Back up your claims. No "Nazryn Canon". Actual canon. Put up or shut up, time. No theory/head canons. Quote something official. Go. Otherwise what little (rapidly decreasing amount of) credibility you have left with all things lore related is completely gone. Sorry, you're not in the Lore section anymore, which is just a hilarious "Woe-is-Me-Dominion! Echo Chamber." We deal with facts out here. What Ultimatum? Not against the Cassians, as when Dominus deliverd it there was no word of exterminaton. Against the Falkrin? Because the head Ambassador didn't mention it, at least not until her head was seperated from her body. Now you're just flailing, talking in nonsense, being deliberately obtuse, and pretending that I never linked the very thing that refutes the lie about the Eldan not saying "Do this or die." to the Cassians. Here it is again:

http://wildstaronline.wikia.com/wiki/Tresayne_Toria So one snooty cassian mentions if they don't cooperate then military action will result, while the exact same policy is held by the Granok. Neither faction acted on it until AFTER negotations failed. As a Dom player you go to the meeting, they have actual negotiations, but the Falkrin kill the Ambassadors in cold blood. Only THEN is military action initiated. Same with the Granok, only after their efforts at diplomacy fail do they exterminate the Falkrin. Ooooooh! So now all of a sudden, he doesn't matter. How convenient. The one snooty Cassian who is the head of Falkrin Ambassador Unit, that has his orders from the top brass, is instantly dismissed because he doesn't help your argument. The important Cassian ambassador who is ordered to kill the Falkrin if they say no to his offer, as the rule. They were planning on killing them if they failed to assimilate. They went IN to the situation with their murderous intent in their pocket. The Granok on Nexus don't have that same policy. You're making things up AGAIN. Because they don't attack the Lopp after the Lopp refused to side with the Exiles in one of the Exile bases in Malgrave. Nor is there any actual hostility in their response. But going back, the Granok didn't attack the Falkrin after diplomacy failed. They didn't have a CHANCE to be diplomatic. Because the Falkrin attacked and killed both the FCON squad and their civilians without warning. The Falkrin started the entire ordeal and established themselves as enemies right off the bat. You don't kill someone without even talking to them or warning them. That's what the Falkrin did. Dharnell, when we say we're going to bring "democracy" to an "oppressed" or "backward" nation... and then we invade/kill them and force our idealogy on them. How is that different from the Dominion, who believe they are literally chosen by gods (which is strictly speaking, actually TRUE, given the Eldan did ascend to goodhood as the Drusentity for better AND worse) to spread their justice and ideals..... Stop, and think hard about that. Also consider whether the Dominion, with the highest standard of living by far even for its poorest citizens, free education and healthcare for all citizens and upward mobility for those who earn it, is right to believe their ideals are superior to other ideals that other factions hold. This has nothing to do with what I said, and is just  a typical Smokescreen Tangent Tactic that you always try to whip out, when you fail to make a point with using the game's canon. Usually with some loosely applicable real world example. Sorry, try that nonsense on someone else. It doesn't work on me. P.S. This is a part of the TFBTF titled "Attack of the Planet Reapers": Myala:"That's sweet," said the queen, "But we have to wait here. The Exiles will be here soon." Arwick: "They're more than three hours late," he growled. "And they're the ones that got us into this mess in the first place." Myala: "Arwick," she said, gently but firmly. "Not now." Arwick held his tongue, but they both knew he was right..." What does that quote prove or disprove? Or were you just being vague and hoping that's applicable to SOMEthing, because we're talking about Aurin in general? You're failing and flailing all over the place.


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It wouldn't even have to be so ham handed. Simply the revelations regarding the luminai project and the ultimate fate of the nexus project is enough to shake up the dominion enough for them to seriously reconsider their position. Add in the arrival of Myrcalus, the revival of Serrick and Druscera as a mediator between the factions and there's no reason the exiles and dominion couldn't agree to a truce at the very least. The only serious obstacle would be the Chua since most of 'em aren't too big on eldan worship or the church and kind of want to do their own thing.

Edited January 3, 2016 by Jelletje


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Mondo (as entertaining as he is) is one of those characters I consider evil. I like to think he is trying to find a cure, but as you've noticed, he's doing it in the worst way possible. I do find myself curious about what he was trying to do exactly, but they never explain it.


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Yeah, this thread totally isn't a comparison of the Exiles and the Dominion. :rolleyes:


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