120202-class-locked-gear-cant-be-used-in-costumes-why

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Right, because people never go to raids in search of nice-looking gear. *eyeballs all the people farming raids and dungeons in WoW and Rift expressly for costume items* I challenge your "most" assertion, though. You have no numbers to back that claim.


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So should I take it from your post that since raiders are all about gearing and not costuming, you'd be all for the idea that drops in raids--which already have better stats--should just look like the standard white-grade vendor gear available at level 50? Since raids are all about skill and not about vanity, seems completely appropriate to me. As a more general note, I find it mind-blowing that of all the things the developers could be spending their time and effort on, what they're spending it on is developing code to selectively inactivate their own costuming system for raiding gear.


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Pretty much all the gear in ds looks like random whites/blues except the class sets


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No more "whack" than me rolling around in heavy gear like this shit


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Did a bad job explaining. I'm fine with 95% of the gear being accessible to everyone, and I think the majority of it looks great on other classes - the difference with the class sets is I think they're so well personalized (classonized?) to the class. The reason I brought up the engi gear is it's the most obviously a class-set, it's complete with Bots, little emote faces, etc. - it just screams "I EARNED THIS AS A STRONG AND POWERFUL ENGINEER!" If I were an engi, this gear would totally lose its luster if it was just another set. The below quote is in response to someone saying "this is just something the costume lovers need to deal with, it shouldn't be a thing" (I suck at quoting)

Sharing feels good, trust me. You got 95% of the game's gear to fiddle with, what about those of us who wish there were more class-exclusive, pve-exclusive, pvp-excusive sets - sets that show what you've done? I don't think its outrageous to let 5% go to the other side of the argument Sorry you couldn't get the piece you wanted (not being sarcastic,) but other people play the game too and may have different desires.


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Heavy or not, it just looks like whatever-generic-any-class armor not something meant as a specific set for a specific class. If you could get Ohmna's head from any old housing vendor, it probably wouldn't be as cool seeing it let alone acheiving it.

I think you know what I mean - there's a million pieces that look like the medic 1500 shoulders, if someone sees me in that gear their first instinct isnt "that guy is wearing the 1500 shoulders, he must've hit 1500." If someone sees a medic in the 1800 medic shoulders, they say "okay that's a medic, and he must've hit 1800." Some people love that aspect of the armor, that it was meant and earned by/for your class. I'm not trying to convince anyone, I was merely saying "there's two populations - people who like the class locked gear, and people who don't." If your answer is "the majority wants all gear unlocked" then my response is "the majority of all gear is unlocked" - both can be satisfied, and that minority of class locked gear only effects those few individuals who desperately need that one piece, it sucks you really love it, but it makes another (maybe small) population happy. I'd say it's a small sacrifice to make both camps happy, but judging by quick "oh yeah!?" responses and the "no screw that" attitude I dont think the crowd here is interested in that. In the end, I hope you get the piece you want in the future Edit: for clarity


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There actually is some reuse of costume pieces across gear weight restrictions, just not overlapping at the same levels so it's not as easy to spot. Because apparently class-restricted costuming is a big priority of the devs, or so I've heard.


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A non-argument. It's pretty standard practice that need for gear-use outweighs need for cosmetic reasons.


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It's just a status quo, which is not always the right thing.


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{| style="width: 100%;" So what you are saying is that uniqueness is not exclusive. This is false. If I'm part of the class that can get that particular armor, I'm being more unique because the armor is excluding everyone who isn't. Shall I continue explaining the problem or why I used the words "exclusive" which, by the way, wasn't the only word I used in that quote? Also, on who put me in charge on whether your arguments are valid or not, I'm not actually exercising authority; I'm exercising critical thought. Picking up your arguments, analyzing them and then calling shenanigans when I conclude they are terrible. You can debate my conclusions, but not my 'authority', because I don't have one. Questioning 'who people are to put this in question' is just a cheap tactic (just like most fallacies) used by those with little argumentation capabilities . If you question who I am to question your reasons without providing further counterargumentation, then everyone could do that. Case in point:

So...who put you in charge?


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