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Was in the same boat as Exanthem and yes I have an authenticator. The only reason I can think I was banned was because I was farming Grimvault for a few hours a day to get resources for Weaponsmithing, Herbs and gold from vendoring excess. What annoys me most is now I don't know whether I can go back there and grind and farm away again as they may once again just slap a ban on me without even checking the logs to see that I am doing the actions myself and legitamately.


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I played Rift from closed beta until about September of last year and in one of the early patches they too accidentally banned a few folks who use assistive devices. I know some of those got restored after investigation as those folks posted on the forums.

Without knowing the specific routine used here, I can only make a vague guess at why.

Often, those assistive devices can create strings of input, do repetitive actions in a very regular way, etc. Example: Attacking something with a certain ability.

I do not at all, in any way, believe everyone who was banned and posting (or not) in this thread, was a bot/hack/cheat, that would be as crazy as some of the arm-chair quarterbacking going on in the thread with people being vastly superior to the Carbine devs (that wasn't aimed at you Pathiss).

If that ban was on you or someone you know, first, thank you (or them) for your service, and second I would imagine that the Carbine devs are reviewing that case as with all the rest and reinstatement may be coming.


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While I detest the bots and hope they all blow up in a fiery roasting of the ban-bomb, having some kind of animosity against someone who may be disabled and trying to enjoy this game is pretty *cupcaking* stupid.

Ever try to pick up a full coffee cup missing a thumb and 3 fingers? How about something as simple as pulling up a zipper and buttoning your pants with only one hand? I've watched friends try to do both and while I would never pity them, I sure as hell wouldn't begrudge them the use of an assistive device/tools to function in the world or to play games with.

Will some of the bot owners stoop to any level to try to get around the system? Probably.

Do you have to begrudge a segment of the population for trying to get some enjoyment out of a game? *cupcake* no.

I wonder if that kind of statement would be so quick to come if it was you missing an arm?


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Why should devs give information on what the detector looks for. So bot makers can workaround the explained logic????

In all legal terms a TOS is a contract. Even if you don't read it the accept option CLEARLY indicate that you accept to all of it. Those TOS have been forever in computer/console software, and always have been:   You accept the terms, you can use. You don't accept, return and ask for a refund. But you can not change your opinion after halfway using the product. And like everything Law related: Not knowing the law doesn't clean you of the charge. Also, if you by some reason you violate a law (big or small issue), the 1st occurrence of that "crime" is usually a small penalty. But if you keep doing it (and getting caught), eventually the penalty will be the full one. In games is like that, sometimes is a warning or small time frame ban, but eventually if you keep doing it, then account is frozen, or closed.


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Yea because it's just impossible for Carbine to make mistakes, right?... /facepalm


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Windows authenticator works. I've been using it from the start. Link to follow: http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/authenticator/e7994dbc-2336-4950-91ba-ca22d653759b


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Don't go on gold/powerleveling websites. They're malware central.


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Evidently the botters don't fear much. I captured one in a screen shot yesterday, and his guild tag is an advertisement for a gold farmer site.


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Problem is, they aren't even banning the bots...


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LOL i love that you picked up on that. Thats the first thing I thought when I saw that was... really?! haha


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Telling people exactly why they were banned makes it that much easier for people who make illicit third party tools such as bot programs and map hacks to alter their program so it slips through the defense software. As much as it would be justified for the small percentage of people who actually did nothing wrong, it would harm the game greatly in the long term. People who develop game hacks are always looking to stay one step ahead of cheat detection software. As it has been said before, Addons obtained through Curse are NOT causing bans. This has been stated over and over again by Carbine.


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{| style="width: 100%;" So what about more people come up with suggestions instead of just pure whining ;), it's easy to whine

This some of good suggestions as I see it, but one more thing that can solve some of the problem with botts is if Carbine allowed us to have 2 x gathering plots at our houses. At the moment I do most of my gatering at my house as I'm so fed up with the botts. Anyone else have some ideas?

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