131563-lets-talk-about-population-exiles-vs-dominions

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Nah, but the population will change considerably once free to play is there. There is a chance that this will normalize population on both sides... and a chance that this won't happen. It's hard to make predictions now. Either way, with f2p coming there will be a larger influx of players on both sides, which will resolve the more immediate problem of "lack of players". Sure, there might still be less players on Exile side, but the playerbase should be healthy again for at least a while.

Edited September 11, 2015 by Wylf


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I agree. I think the Dominion got short changed on races. The Exiles got Aurin which are cute and the Mordesh are truly beautiful if they got over the illness that is or you get to be a badass Granock. The Doms got Draken with a terrible horn choice and posture, and Mechari which have poor facial choices or a unisex Chua.


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How about this, all Aurin-lovers are actually super happy they exist. Including myself, without a single cutey girly race some people probably wouldn't play because they actually love their Aurin absolutely much?! xD Not a solution nor a good wish to forward to God. You just see it from the wrong side: it is the same complex of problems WoW seemed to have with its fraction in the past - Alliance was overpopulated and Horde was super ugly and nobody wanted to play there, what to do, hmm easy, give Horde a pretty new race and people will flood the other side too. WildStar is still so young, it was probably not to predict previously that the Dommys would get a too low population because the majority of want-only-cuteness-kinda-players (including myself) wouldn't find the Chua as cute as Aurin - how about somewhen in the future-plot a brand new super-cute-pretty race from elsewhere in the universe arrives on Nexus and those guys somehow end up on Dominion-side? Not that hard to implement to the plot. The solution would be actually so easy, really, not that hopeless, guys. Other games had that problem before, some didn't solve it till today, but some did. EDIT: Yeah my post came too late, someone made my point already above, whatevs so others see it my way, great.
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Don't hate. :angry:

Edited September 11, 2015 by Taruchi


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Yeah I have to agree that I really dislike the anime prepubescent school girl characters in games. At least you could never confuse a female Aurin with a child.


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I love Granok. Both male and female look great. My only problem with them are the available classes. Engineer sadly becomes very tedious to play after a while, Medic I already play on lots of other characters and warrior... meh, warrior.


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The space 'evil empire' gig worked rather well in SWTOR, which I think may have lead carbine to believe it might work in Wildstar as well. I mean, the dominion is pretty much a cartoony clone of the empire, no? Problem with that is that the Empire mainly worked because it was an established thing for about fourty years at this point, with lots of people interested in it. Wildstar is simply lacking the charismatic characters to make it work, I feel.

Edited September 11, 2015 by Wylf


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I think it's interesting too, but it's still a religion that's inextricably linked to the foundation of the Dominion's government and caste system-based society. So players will respond to it in a way that depends a great deal on the ability of the player to enjoy their character's actions without endorsing those actions as morally valid. If you think you're being asked to find your character heroic as they do something horrific, you're not going to respond at all well to it. If you know you're putting on the bad guy hat, doing things in the game that offend you IRL won't bug you nearly as much. Look at the Sith in SWTOR, they're a great example of a dark quasi-religion that offends nobody as they commit one atrocity after the next because there's no pretense throughout the game that somehow, they might really be good people under it all. They're not. You know they're not when you pick it. You're putting on the Bad Guy Robes for fun. Ildur mentioned GTA as another example of playing a game in which you gleefully take on the role of someone who is, by any moral reckoning, a complete *cupcake*. We all know he's a complete *cupcake*. When we help him succeed, we're not doing it because we believe in his morality, we're doing it because hahaha, he's such a *cupcake*! Can you even believe the game allows you to do the *cupcake* things that you can make him do?! In this game, the Dominion is deliberately not presented as the bad guys and there are many people who will cheerfully defend that morality as actually, really just fine. There's a 70 page thread on the Lore subforums of back and forthing with people who were willing to argue over the course of more than a year that the Dominion was on the same moral playing field as the Exiles. Did you enjoy playing GTA? Now ask yourself how much you'd enjoy it if you were playing alongside other people who were earnestly expressing the view that there was nothing wrong with what that guy was doing and that this was a deliberate design choice to allow you to play a perfectly valid and reasonable set of actions. After a while, you'd start wondering who these psychopaths were that you were hanging out with and sneak away. I don't wonder why the Dominion has trouble retaining players. I wonder why the game's developers are literally trying to make the difference even harder to spot from the start without changing any of the backstory that ultimately defines the morality. Minor edits to correctly credit Ildur's post for mentioning GTA.

Edited September 12, 2015 by yasfan


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I am rolling a Radish Medic.


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To be frank i find Granok Males horrible with their oversize shoulders, its looks so bad i just keep them out of my screen :O The females however look great :)


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Meh, different people have different preferences, no? I don't like how Aurin look, she doesn't like how Draken look. Perfectly fine opinions to have.

I'm sure the oil you spilled on said platform has nothing to do with that.

Edited September 15, 2015 by Wylf


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I don't think Exile's ever in danger of becoming unpopular what with bunny girls and all


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Making the Exiles overtly terroristic is flat out disgusting. That has some serious backfire potential.


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You're looking at things too narrowly. The Chua may not be nuanced themselves, but they provide nuance to the Dominion. So long as there's balance, nuance can contain bad just as easily as it can contain good. That's the whole point. Look at a character like Walter White on Breaking Bad. He does some horrific things, but you can't say he's not a nuanced character because of it. Also, I'm not apologizing or excusing the Dominion of anything. Their actions may be rash, overboard, and tyrannical, but they do have a goal that contains a kind of peace. It may not be your definition of peace, but if the Dominion's objective is to overtake the universe and be the supreme rulers, the result is - as they see it - is a peaceful universe due to having the proper order in place. As you can even see in the game, the Dominion is relatively peaceful among themselves, even though that is largely due to control, intimidation, and quashing of dissension. Again, that is nuance that exists within the game, but really is never highlighted.


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