110601-okay-they-are-looking-into-server-pop-issue

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https://twitter.com/StephanFrost/status/503906783342387200


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Query. Most of the RP is not.. say.. random, in world public RP, is it? It's more events, Rocio writing 14 novels, etc? Couldn't that survive a merge? Just build a guild or guild community around that?


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I do a LOT of open world random RP. Random RP is a bit like dancing at the club. Nobody wants to be the first one on the floor, but once a couple people are doing it, everyone feels comfortable jumping in :) This works better on Spenser, who's a bit less... um... murder-y than Seeger.


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So the fun in wPvP is killing people who aren't going to fight back? The majority of the people I see running around on Warbringer aren't even interested in wPvP. Anyone who's going to give you a decent challenge in wPvP will still have themselves flagged. Unless you're talking about ganking lowbies...and that should be punished in-game as far as I'm concerned.

So if I'm reading this correctly, you'd be OK with the merge as long as they removed the faction jumble filter on say chat? I'd be fine with that. I use a workaround to read what they're saying anyway.

I can see your point. I suppose it would drastically increase the number of OOC names and guilds that would have to be overlooked for someone in an RP mindset.


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Carbine has been pretty awesome to the RP community so far; if they do go mega servers I don't see why they wouldn't have a shard for RP; or otherwise keep the RP community together still.


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I can, but Carbine would probably give a warning to them to be respectful of the RP community on Evindra and that any abuse wouldn't be tolerated.


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That would be nice, but Carbine was VERY clear to us at launch that they would NOT be policing the RP community for anything other than run-of-the-mill griefing and cheating. They were very clear that naming conventions and the like were up to us to police. So far, that hasn't been an issue - because everyone there WANTS to be there with us. Go dig up the pre-launch discussions about moving the RP-PVP crowd to Widow. Go ahead. See what those people had to say about our "filthy stupid casuals" and how we'd mess up "their" server with our stupid RP. Please. I'll wait. It will be very enlightening, I promise.


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It's surprising how many people use zone populations as a meter for total population, I'm all for it if it were actually cross realm zones just because it'll stop the "I DID MY LEVEL 1-20 ZONES AND I ONLY SAW 5 PEOPLE!!!!" topics. I honestly don't expect it to be megaservers though, if you consider it, this would eliminate server transfers and that's not a good choice overall for them. Far more likely a large amount of cross realm changes, AH, CREDD, Zones, etc..


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This game is dying and you're worried about the RP community being affected? Strange priorities.


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It is possible but would require them to do what DCUO did when they did Mega Servers (maybe other games have done it but DCUO is the only other MMO I've ever played). What DCUO did was they had a Teleporter in the Headquarters of each faction and you could teleport to a PVP Phase and visa versa. Players could choose on a whim what phase they wanted to play on at any given time. EDIT: Apologies if this was already stated in some manner. I only read the first page of responses :P.


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Yeah I just turn my phone sideways to log in and then turn it back after login is done. Even sideways the entire login page isn't visible.


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Okay, I've already explained this, but it's a big thread, so no harm. I'm not worried about people coming to our server. I want people to come to our server. I want people to CHOOSE to come to our server. What I don't want is people being forced to be part of our server (either through merger or mega-technologies). That's the point of the RP community. You *choose* to participate. By removing that choice, all those people that have CHOSEN to not be around the RP community are now mixed in with us. While it might be hard to believe, there are segments of the MMO population who detest role-players. Everything we do offends them. Many others are largely unfriendly to it, even if not actively hostile. Why should *their fun* and *our fun* be brought low?


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I stated very clearly, the "game is dying" due to the issue being discussed in this thread. Not the RP community...let's not confuse. My point was simply this: I just hope we have WS for you to RP in. Now to state the obvious; if the population issue is not fix (apparently merging RP server is unacceptable with pvp or pve servers...), you will be RP'ing in another game.


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Lol. One, have you seen the hate Olivar gets for posting in character in GD? Oh how they want him to keep that filthy rp away from their precious GD. Two, Tera has crossrealm lfg. You should have seen the hate between the three server types, omg. PvE people detested pvp guys, always horror story about those arseholes. NON-RP often kicked rp people if they could because thinking they'd all rp and not know their job etc. The whining about them was a weekly thing. Pvp people always thought the PvE people were slowing down their runs because everyone knows the best PvE players are on PVP servers. Lmao There's plenty of hate and trolling. I don't rp really. For my own reasons I don't play my Evindra characters. I don't roll pvp. Just saying that so it's clear I don't have a horse in this race. People who want pvp, who didn't just join pvp realm cause their guild is too hardcore for PvE ruleset... They'd hate flagging and all that nonsense. They want people to be up for grabs, they want to be up for grabs. You, I, don't understand this mentality but it doesn't make nonexistent. I'm not sure how many of them there are considering how little wpvp is encouraged by the game with the dailies and instance oriented design, but I wouldn't want to take their fun away. Rp players are trolled often. At least on their server they can state "it said rp server, you rolled here, this is our house". And have your community behind you. The PvE guilds that don't rp that joined Evindra are unlikely to stir stuff up, they know what server they picked. Joe-blow who wants to lynch Olivar would see red if he's inundated by rp (have you heard how big the range of say is and emotes?!?!)... Oh and he can't kill him either cause on this megaserver you can choose to not flag?!? Lmao. The rage, the trolling, the questionable words. Sweet drama. For those suggesting technology, it sounds like a heck of a lot of work to bring it all to one server and then keep compartmentalizing the players in the right category. This game can't afford to work months on this and they cannot afford the backlash of wiping away distinctions. And lastly. They're not even willing to let you transfer PvE to pvp. For money! But they will merge them?!? Haha


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The problem with that is that having a simple RP flag will make it easier for the #hardcore crowd to harass the lolRP crowd. If it's as easy as flagging up or entering a teleporter to another shard while waiting for an arena queue to pop or for" hardcore raider number 20" to finish eating his hotpocket, RPers will be harrassed, mocked, and their fun interfered with. I don't want that for them, because I don't want them dancing AFK or emoting in my battlegrounds in return. Having separate (but equal) servers for the RP crowd will make it harder for my ilk to grief them, since we'd need to maintain a character on that server, and would actually have to be logged in, preventing me from griefing them while I wait for my own activities to kick off. (Much of my post is tongue-in-cheek so please don't be offended by it. That said, I'm serious that the non-RP crowd will grief the RP crowd during times of boredom. I've never done it, not even once, but I've seen friends do it in earlier MMOs and I am certain it will happen in Wildstar in spades.)


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No, this was a huge mistake. If the trial happened some months after launch, when servers and the population have been stabilized, i would agree. But putting in launch so many ppl as trials in the same servers with ppl who owned the game was a huge mistake.


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All the more reason to stop with the server character caps and just make it a global limit. I'd be okay with megaservers, so long as Evindra stays how it is. I do not want to have to deal with non-RP server folk in the open world.


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I'm pretty sure its 6xserver amount, as i have 6 on Myrc, and at least 3 on every other NA server, so it's higher then 20 haha


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Most certainly not the case. We are listening, without a doubt. We're just sorting out our responding right now. :)


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I do enjoy the thought of a more populated server but I cannot get into the whole role playing thing. Thanks for the response though!


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