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A little nit picking, definitely, and I'll admit it's by me. The point is, that we have player created channels and there is not distinction. I don't think ANYONE would claim me kicking people out of my "raid lead" channel that officers use to discuss loot, roles, etc. is an abuse of power. But some are claiming that the nature of the LFG channel makes it so that using those tools is inherently abusive and I disagree. But if you ARE going to argue that it's abusive to moderate LFG by not abusive to moderate my "raid lead" channel, then you have to come up with a clear distinction between the two as to when moderation is not allowed. Is it when you publicly advertise a channcel? Is it when it gets over a certain number of people? My opinion: if it's player created then it's player moderated.


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My opinion: This is why a player-created LFG cannot be claimed to be the community-wide resource that is required. Nobody is required to use such a community-wide resource, and all such global channels that I have ever seen implemented in any game retain the right for you to shut them off if you don't want to be in them. Anyone who wants to continue to restrict their own activities to privately-owned, player-moderated resources is welcome to do so. The argument that somehow players should not even have the option of a global channel because no players could "police it" and remove "those that need it" is simply false because Carbine has a ToS to establish the rules defining those who need to be removed. Such players can be reported.


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No need to be rude. I would pull back that attitude, if you want your opinion to still be validated. It was just a simple question, that if you could rephrase what you said into a manner that is easier to understand. As it stands, from what I read, your opinion and over the top descriptions keep changing.

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Carbine do have logs, as does a lot of games, but MMOs do not get policed the way they used to. Its a fact. They just say, use the ignore system. So use it, oh not account wide? Thats ok, I will just keep ignoring every alt. What are you even talking about?! It is like you change your mind, your opinion, and what you are talking about every 5 minutes. Whats next, how turtles are the cause of pollution?


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But people do, hint why they keep questioning. Again, don't be rude. What are you even talking about? I honestly question your intentions on this thread...


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There is a pretty big difference between community policing and lynch mobs, mostly because one involves mobs and general disregard for justice, order, or law. As I've pointed out before, banning someone from a player moderated chat channel is much more akin to kicking someone out of a privately owned business that is open to the public than it is to arresting someone for being drunk and disorderly. One involves the force of law, this is carbine and their ability to actually ban people from the playing the game entirely. The prior, involves private or community standards that are being violated and as a result someone is being removed from a privately controlled part of the game, but they can still play the game (thus why the force of law is not involved.) This is where the jurisprudential difference lies. As I pointed out yesterday, its the difference between a public park and privately-owned park used by the public, both are community resources, but the standards by which they are governed are different.


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I  respect your oppinion, but I strongly disagree on a few points, but we are in agreement to disagree:)


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In my experience, it's already become that a decent amount of the time. It's not like because it's a player run channel it's suddenly immune to all the various BS that players spout off at each other; the last 3 pages are proof of that. ;) But really, this thread has done a phenomenal job of getting absurdly off track every other post.


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