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You keep mentioning how it used to be. How long ago did you stop playing?


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Let me easily counter that question, What if you were subscribed via card or CREDD since launch but because of issues with NCsoft account services/Carbine services your subscription time was forced to lapse? How else can you subscribe if it's out of your control? Support messed up and took a day to get back to you? I could go on and on with examples. Do you deserve a special nod? Think more thoroughly about what you are saying and consider the multiple grey areas for players that have been playing since launch. If someone quit the game for a month. Sure, no special nod for them. That's only a few unhappy customers. (This game can afford that according to quarterly earnings right?)This whole thing brings me WAY back to the "reserve your name" or "BETA Rewards" stuff and several other services early on in drop 1-2 that carbine couldn't figure out how to handle. "Here are some boom boxes to make up for it". I remember when people got over that by leaving.Every now and then they decide to shoot themselves in the foot. Which naturally showed in it's regressing playerbase. This company just needs a postive reputation from the existing/future playerbase. To do that they need to avoid terrible ideas like these altogether. (Don't get me mixed up, carbine have made some great choices. But man have I been there for every bad one they made too. I watched that playerbase vanish real quick over those).You have to learn from your previous mistakes at the end of the day. B)


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Hey I was there for that. It had a 60 day grace period and people who were just barely outside that grace period (minutes, hours). were still rewarded with the statue. Pretty sweet gift. ^_^ Though it still had it's obvious drawbacks. Good comparison to bring up though!


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I'm still unsure how you believe having recurring sub versus renewing it every month yourself is a sign of being the most dedicated... It is infact mind boggling that you and Carbine think that someone who had paid 100% of the sub cost, and played hardcore since beta up to f2p is less dedicated than someone that played casually but used a recurring sub... What should matter is that you paid 100% of the sub, PERIOD. It's actually really easy to check, if the game was live for 12 months and the sub is 15 dollars... then anyone who paid 180$ should be eligible... This would eliminate any/all hiccups players had with their sub, be it technical issues, credd or payment model, and would include all the players that truly never left Wildstar, aka; Loyal, most dedicated.


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Pretty sure you're the one looking too deep into what they are saying to justify the mistake they are doing.

anyone who was subscribed since june 3rd until free to play should be considered a loyal subscriber... dropping the sub for few minutes does NOT make you an unloyal subscriber... A loyal subscriber is someone who had subbed the entire time, and guess what, i have, and they are simply making a mistake due to laziness in creating a fair system. Edit: also, if their definition is truly what you are saying and has nothing to do with rewarding players that never ever left, then i'd still be here making the same arguments because i'd find their reasoning to be beyond stupid.

And yes, a 3-4 day grace period for Carbine would also work. Although, this is not the solution that i was advocating for, i have another one in mind. It would fix the issues of all the legitimate concerns, legitimate as in the ones that actually were here the entire time and somehow became ineligible... I don't consider all the complaints on this thread legitimate though, there are some arguing that even though they left for a month or so they should be eligible, keyword here is LEFT... they left... therefore they are not the most dedicated...


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They can't exactly allow everyone to plead their case individually as to why they should be eligible. Many people would just lie in order to claim eligibility. I could claim I had a power outage on the day I meant to reactivate my CREDD or that I let my subscription lapse because I was in the hospital. I don't think Carbine could ask me to send my utilities or hospital bill. Also, there are people who bought a 12-month sub who quit the game after launch and came back months later. They're eligible, but certainly not as "loyal" as someone who bought the game after launch and played every day. Should they not be eligible? Should Carbine filter out people who have logged on less often than others? The continuous sub since launch is the easiest way to implement this. Would it be "better" if it was something that could be unlocked with Loyalty Points? Maybe - I mean, it would certainly be a lot more accessible, but it's not meant to be that. It's for people who have had an uninterrupted subscription, and that's unusual enough that it makes the mount and title the special things they're meant to be. In any case, like Lethality suggested, if there is a gap in service because of a problem on Carbine/NCSoft's end, probably opening a ticket would be enough. But for external situations where Carbine/NCSoft doesn't have a record of something (like being in the hospital or being away when CREDD expired) and has to just take someone's word for it, I wouldn't expect them to be able to help. FWIW, I had a 6-month sub, cancelled renewal and came back for Drop 4, so I'm not getting the mount or title.


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