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Yep... the trend is that this same garbage happens to EVERY game out there. People have been predicting the demise of basically every game out there since WOW came out, and even WOW gets hit too. Don't you know, this is the internet. It's cool to come up with the most creative way to say "I didn't like this game" and to scream to the masses that the game is dying and you shouldn't play. I mean, if I listened to everything I read in the comments section of gaming web sites, I wouldn't have any games to play.


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Actually I believe it would help the game. No doom and gloom posts in general, all doom and gloom people leaving, might actually help new players retention instead of risking them being influenced by the posts with bait titles, and well general doom and gloom behaviour of some. As for the F2P system, while it used to save companies (because it's only companies, it never have saved games : they just became shadows of their old selves, each and every one of them) it's starting to not save them anymore... F2P used to be a trend a few years ago, the savior of MMOs, it's not anymore. Also the general percentage of revenues from people using cash shops, well the last numbers i've heard, are around 7% (of people actually paying vs 93% playing for free and never using the cash shop), in average in mmos... What that means is you roughly need to multiply your player population in the ball park of x15 just to get even with the old sub method. And go in the x20, x30 if not x50 to make the F2P transition successfull... Also when people *really* realize they can play for free by using CREDD then these forum will become a better place. And ANYWAY those that say they don't have the time to make enough plat and would prefer F2P instead are the same old freeloaders that wouldn't pay a cent if the game became F2P... If all you want is F2P : go play a F2P game...


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This is something i can definitely confirm as well,which is why i loathe F2P i have the collectors edition of swtor and played since beta up until couple weeks ago. i'm a huge fan of the original knights of the old republic which is the only reason i ever cared about swtor.But after playing thru the shadow of revan expansion(which in no way shape or form is actually much of an expansion) just couldnt do it anymore.the story had rushed all over it,yet this is supposedly swtors claim to fame what makes their mmo different. I used to joke on twitter about how i get more emails from them about the cash shop then actual content or anything else for that matter,lol Like shoogli,just about every F2P title i have played customer service and quality are a sad joke.it's more like cash shop,cash shop and cash shop! I just came back to wildstar two days ago,gonna be honest i never liked wildstar from day one.the housing was about they only thing that impressed me.i purchased it because my roommate loves the humor and art style to death.I came back for her for the most part since not too many mmo's lately have been doing it for me. it always amused me how my roomie is pretty new to gaming and mmo's and she has trouble with movement in game in 3D environments but can't get enough of wildstar even with it's action combat.So figured i can learn to love wildstar just like she can learn the basics and we can play together. things we tend to take for granted in mmo's cause were vets of the genre. regardless of my previous feelings of wildstar i'm willing to give it a chance to grow on me(i love the lore by the way) and i'm willing to throw our money at it cause at least with wildstar i know where my money is going.I know there will be consistent content flow and i wont be nickel and dimed with some cash shop.we are paying for a service,unlike most F2P games where the cash shop is where the revenue is focused and subs are not priority anymore and the quality of those games shows.It just plain doesn't exist! i don't wish F2P on any mmo.


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This, I suspect that the reason the group finder fixes are taking so long is because the development team are working on a switch to a different pay model which is taking precedence. As for the rest of the thread.


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I'm really curious how many are actually buying CREDD to sell them in game. I'm also curious to know what wall happen when CREDD in game runs out.


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Honestly, it's becoming demoralizing for me. I come to this forum to chat about the game, but more and more I'm just getting told that I shouldn't be investing my time in this game anymore. I really would prefer to spend my time talking about the things I enjoy in this game and how much fun I'm having. I wouldn't even come to this forum but it's something to read while I'm waiting for code to compile.


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go into those "morning coffee" threads.. i don't go near those. its all about fun. but when you are in a thread about bad news from an investment firm.. i mean, COME ON, don't act all sad. you put that on yourself Jef...


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...why didn't I think of that?


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This is the internet. Hating on things is cool, such as Nickleback, Kayne West, people that like to go to night clubs, internet explorer,COD and now Wildstar. The internet forums represent such a small amount of people, but yet people see it as the majority.


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The problem is when the same 4 or 5 sociopathic morons warp almost every unrelated thread they post in, into a "dis gaym ded/bad!" thread. For the sole purpose of being passive-aggressively antagonistic, and under the phony guise of "wanting to be realistic". Who attempt to protect this fake guise (that anyone with a mental age over 6 can see through), by calling everyone who isn't like them a "white knight".


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Passive-aggressiveness.


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Thing is its the same from the other side, not naming names but soggy cardboard face, too long did not beaner and olive oil flood these forums constantly with "positive" comments. Can't imagine how many people they have drove away with this attitude. Works both ways, people see white knighting even if it is hidden in "constructive" posts.


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Come get coffee instead. We actually talk about the game there.


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How, you're in every single *cupcake*ing "general discussion" thread unless it's the coffee thread (which I don't go into very often) or the 0-50s I want to discuss the game, not your shitty attitude problem. You're a passive aggressive little wannabe that took the numbers from one quarterly report and now you think you're NCSoft's financial aide. It's pathetic. Short of reporting every single post you make now trying to derail threads (meaning I can't put your drivel on ignore), there's nothing else I can do to be able to have "general discussions" about the game. I know you're trying to rile people up, and I know you see it as some funny game. But you really do look so pathetic. Do you want to know the reason why noone posts anymore? Look in the mirror. Even I don't want to post on this toxic shithole you've created. God job "avatar", you are #1 troll.


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Lay-off's happen in almost every mmo after the "launch" is over, it's happened in almost ALL mmo's up to this point, so citing that is funny in my book. Heck it happens in other industries other than gaming as well.


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and you never talk about your opinion on the topic. you just try to thrown in some philosophy about the posters thinking that you know what they think or mean. pretty weird imo. but hey, whatever suits you mate. we welcome all.


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What, you don't know why? Negativity is the language of the internet. Obviously, you're here. You say you're a white knight everywhere else. You aren't in those positive threads, either. You rarely give any indication that you have anything you'd actually enjoy in the game even if it did change business practices because you aren't in those positive threads either. You only say that, "This game's going to have to go F2P because there's no population, there's no population because everyone assumes the game is dead." I mean, you do realize you are your own problem. This game is bouncing back, recuperating population, and having to fight this kind of thing to do it. The only reason this happens is because negativity can be assured of a response, and some people are looking for a response, not a conversation. That's a pretty dirty truth about our generation in general. We're enamored with our own misery, delighting only when we can hope that the misery is so pervasive that we aren't alone in it. We're ready to torpedo our own and anyone else's joy, to be the willing instruments of our own disenfranchisement, because happiness isn't in vogue and we pine for attention, any attention. The worst thing is, you talk to people who spend all their time complaining about the game, the population, what have you on the forums one-on-one, it evaporates. People talk about what they love about the game, what they value, why they play it. They talk about how much they love the dungeons, how much they love their guild, random Shiphands, world bosses, crafting, just running around with friends killing rares. But they wouldn't dare say that in public.


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Are you *cupcake*ing dense? Now I know you don't play the game or haven't been around the forums for long. My guild was the last active international guild on Luminai. My guild and I fought for MONTHS to keep that server alive. I messaged devs, I made threads that were buried by this sensationalist bullcrap. I'm a pvp'er. I run the largest pvp guild on EU dominion side. (Or maybe even the whole of EU) I'm not a "whiteknight" I know full well that carbine killed my server. My home. The server I and many other people want to play on. I'm well aware of the issues of this game. Is it as bad as you retards are making it out to be? No way.


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obviously Vic, every place needs its dark side of the force. to let anger or irrationality rule your emotions means you are giving in... just look at all those helpless humans who prefer to come in an obviously negative thread and attack the posters. you are not in that bunch btw, you are smarter than that obi wan. but it still speaks a lot about how people likes to be entertained. they like to rage. and we feed of that.


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But! But! but...that requires effort!


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Not bad? Umm lets repeat these silly problems again: -No PVP until level 50 -Queues are limited to Warplots on Friday evening -PBGs Only -once again PVP server dead.


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