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Yes, let's just split the community. Anything so that people don't have to try at the very minimal to take some personal responsibility and at least try not to run off new players who lack a thick skin. This is a single player game, after all so nobody needs new players.


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Can't hash things out with people who don't want to see the other side of the argument though.


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The problem will that is how you will separate people correctly - by trusting them? :) Newb queues for dungeon: "Hello there, says the system, are you a pro player or a newb?" "Well ofc. I'm a pro player, newb says, and the system puts him to pro group -- together with 3 other newbs who claimed the same, lol" :D Or will system check if he already has the 50 main? They might increase the accuracy but still wouldn't fix the issue completely. That guy with 50 main could be a noob who never did dungeons, or he could have bought account. While maybe some pro player just used new account and is still pro. Queue segregation idea might be ok in some situations, but it's very hard to correctly implement. But then again, pro players have many friends in game so it's not hard to create your own premade, i hope. :)


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Nobody is saying to look away but continuing this particular "conversation" is just a practice in talking at each other rather than with each other because, as Mumbo said, we're all apparently talking in circles. If you are against the behavior the OP reportedly had, put up or shut up and do something productive to prove to all the other newbies we aren't all jerks. The thread is still here so Carbine can see it and keep an eye out for more issues.


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I'm inclined to agree. They could make it an account based requirement so that at least on one character you have to do it before doing any other dungeons. That way new players can learn the mechanics, and people rolling alts don't have to do it if they don't want to.


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biggest problem right now is people going in with dps of 1.2k (and thinking they are gods). If i do not kick them then thats the only real option Going as full tank and then spending 30 minutes soloing each boss is not my thing really when i can nuke down the bosses before anyone has a chance to die instead


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Thats pretty funny. I Dps tank most of my dungeons as long as the healer is half decent. If he/she is fresh 50 ( so so many of them at the moment) then i'll go full tank and have them go dps. I have kicked around 15-20 new players from dungeons in the past 3-4 days. If you come into a dungeon with quest greens and zero knowledge of the instance then i'll vote to kick you. I wont carry you through content because you were to lazy to do shiphand/adventures or the bare minimum of reading up or watching a video about the dungeon you queued for. I don't expect 9 minute STL gold runs when i queue random, if i wanted that i would go with my group of friends, What i do expect is for you to put in your share of the work in the dungeon. I haven't found a boss i cant kill by myself as a tank but if its a full pug group and they die i will just stand in red because how are you ever going to learn how to play if raiders keep carrying you. A lot of the vets suffer from the "Big fish in a small pond" syndrome and now that pond has gotten bigger but the quality of players has gone down so a lot of these raiders think they are king shit now and expect all the f2p people to be as good as them right off the bat. I got a whisper the other day from a new player who added me cause i helped him do some bounties when he was leveling. he had been in KV for 4 hours trying to do it and asked if i would come help so i did. We sat in there for another 2 hours until he was alive for the kill. Now i am in full DS gear so thats around 5plat in repairs for me. A lot of us are more than happy to help. We wont help every random we meet but we all like to start little pet projects to see how good someone can be when given the knowledge. Just don't expect any of us to take the time out of our day to help you when you didn't even take the time to do some research. I'm not your mum and im not your dad, Its not my job to hold your hand through progression. The game is hard we all know that but don't come and cry on the forums because you did something in a instance then only tell one side of the story.


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Not if you are doing your job, no. But if you sign up as a tank or healer and expect someone else to do it then yes.


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