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Put them in the cash shop for $200.00, I'd be ok with that.


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Currently there are no plans to get rid of renown. Through our Omnibit system though you should be able to get a lot of stuff from the cash shop just by playing the game.


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Agreed about the alts. I hated that I had to re-create a few of my characters on the PvP megaserver because they were deleted after being flagged as "inactive" despite the fact I had logged in on them. Alts are a big part of any MMORPG (well, apparently you don't need them in FFXIV, but I haven't played it). And right now, it seems like with all the bonuses that premium members get compared to the shaft that free members get, it's essentially still a sub-based MMO, and that kind of defeats the purpose of going F2P.


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I also found it curious that there wasn't any talk about a cash shop. Personally I am curious about how they'll implement one since they already have CREDD for the legitimate cash to gold conversion.

Using CREDD for your subscription was perhaps the most loyal thing you could do, since someone had to pay $20 for each of them.

Do you not see how this drips of entitlement? If you are changing how much you are paying for the game then it absolutely makes sense for the game to change what features you have access to.

It actually sounds like things will get significantly better for subscribers, especially if you are into crafting at all. That -15% overcharge risk means F2P players absolutely will not be able to compete with circuit board crafted goods sold by subscribers, and the +10% target radius means that F2P players probably won't be able to craft technologist boosts and such nearly as efficiently (unless they luck out on discovery locations), meaning the subcribers can price them out of the market. This almost reeks of pay to win, except no one wins anymore by crafting.

Have you used any CREDD? That does weird things to subscription start dates.

I don't know about circles and guilds, but for a while after launch you had gold sellers constantly spamming people with PvP team invites where the team name was their gold seller spam.


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This. Also you can leave the guild right away if that is the case, so your comment makes no sense. And if it was a problem why not put these features in the box version instead of the sub?


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I would presume that they're referring to people who paid the $60 to buy the game before it goes F2P, but some confirmation on that would be nice since "box purchasers" have been used in the most recent promotion to genuinely refer only to the physical box.


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http://boards.4chan.org/vg/thread/104446474#p104690318 look at the question he is replying to. youmukon is from CRB


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Requiring them to farm plat to maintain their guild reduces the profit margin they get from abusing the guild to create plat for themselves. Will it stop them completely? Probably not. Will it reduce the number of them who do it? Almost certainly.


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Considering that we have almost no details on the cash shop I think you are making untenable assumptions here. Your anecdotal evidence of no games offering a stipend means as much as mine where all of them have offered one, absolutely nothing without more details from Carbine.


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Both of the games that went F2P while I was playing them in the last few years (SWTOR and TSW) did.


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Yep. Edit: and having everyone have these turned off was annoying when you *actually* wanted to invite someone to something.


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Then put it behind the box price, the box is more expensive then 1 month sub


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Check the Dev Digest, Da_Ogre is answering several.


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Actually, "fans"  of a sports team are not participants but spectators. Their participation is limited to cheering in the stands and buying tickets. As subscribers, we "buy the ticket" but we are playing the game as well. I can understand why many would have held off committing until they knew they could in fact play and get their "money's worth" out of the game. I would also define loyalty as those that later learned of Wildstar, myself included in October, subscribed in November, and have maintained a paid account since. I would be a proponent of "subscribing during the time period from initial launch until the f2p program begins." That said, I do agree. I have no love for the mount and won't miss it. I happen to be in love with my Lopp go-go board. I also could careless for the snarf mount. I find it annoying. I guess that makes me a grumpy aurin. :D Disco-Stu?? Love it. :D


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While I don't want to speak to what specific unlocks will be available yet, I can say that permanent unlocks/upgrades are totally a thing we're going to have.


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