124218-people-are-not-subbing

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They designed a game for the worst kind of players in this world, they were level 50 when normal players were still fixing the UI and they completed all the dungeon and get annoyed when you were still exited about the story and waiting to reach 50. Those players they made the game for, were just trash, hardcore comes and goes aways in few weeks, they end the game with no passion and consume it like cigarettes, they attract no new players due to their horrible behaviour, they only attract their similar (who will end and abandon the game in few weeks too as soon as they see no new content for more than few hours) We saw it already, new content bring in people for... 2 weeks? just the time to complete it. they don't even wait for the subscription to end, they leave before

I can't see that "good community" you are talking about. there's no one playing the game for more than 2 month and those who do it are very few. Also: they would pay for cosmetics and character slots, or char. transfer or rename, for more bank tabs or something similar. not so long ago, a financial report showed the world how F2P were changing the way to ear money, and how they were doing it so well, that even WoW was about to change too. that was the period when ncsoft changed all his payment model to f2p with vet status.


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Oh, trust me, I know what this thread is. 50% look at me 50% I'm right And hey, fyi, they DID try a new sub model. It's called CREDD. I don't hate F2P, I do hate the mindless F2P threads that keep cropping up here. It's one thing to ask for something, it's another thing to see all this "it's gonna happen", "everyone wants it" nonsense. If self-validation is the key to success, the F2P threads we get here are pure gold. edited for clarity


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Imagine paying for a service, how absurd. It's almost like capitalism won.


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And again you demonstrate you are not getting a fu** why are you still making yourself ridiculous while you could just login and play like the other? i'll translate it for you This is: I saw what's happening there and they are just waiting FOR free to play, NOT FOR new content, NOT FOR new expansion, NOT FOR new lore.(ALL THINGS THAT HAS BEEN MADE) they are there, outside the gate, waiting for free to play like zombies at the door. THEY (players in general from other games) ARE WAITING (they are not buying the game) FOR A DIFFERENT PAYMENT MODEL (not what carabine is giving them right now) A NEW PLAYER (a possible future player) HAS NO INTEREST IN THE THINGS I MENTIONED BEFORE (read the first line again) you are right Olivar... Save it, there's no point reasoning with them.


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It would be a great shame if CS somehow figured out how to make a profit out of this game.


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Well said. Sums up my thoughts exactly.


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Not saying they are idiots, saying there isn't enough of them.


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The problem with that example is that is not how monetization,works. The point of cash shops is for consumers to buy more than what they usually would, if their plan is to keep consumers to pay $15 a month then why change the current model? They need people to pay more, because the the half of players, just want the game for free, and will not put a single dollar into the game.


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Because that Hardee's just lost a lot of business to that new place down the street, which does almost everything better. Now it's only a matter of time until his friends start asking him to try that new place. If it's better--- they'll probably stay. If it's not, well then there's good ol' Hardees. Inevitably, Hardee's has (and has had to) find their niche in the market. Wildstar thinks it has a niche, but it isn't sustainable. RL Hardee's or Carl's JR around here started offering a southwestern style of grill to go with it. They knew that their quality meet and burgers wouldn't sustain themselves on that alone. Sure, it has it's diehard fans like my grandpa that know the place, but that doesn't mean he's going to keep it afloat. After all, he's just there because his friends go, the burgers are good, and they provide a nice incentive with coupons.


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Old people are senile, they don't know what they want, as a young person I know what's best for everything.


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Let your *cupcake*ing grandpa go to the Hardee's of his choice until it "inevitably shuts down" AND THEN make him choose a new one. Maybe have him try DQ, they seem to be doing pretty good. Quit being a dick to your grandpa, he fought for your freedom in WW2! Stupid analogy is stupid...


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What echo chamber that the game is doing well? I don't think anyone is saying the game is doing well. So strawmanning isn't necessary. But let us know if you "insulate" the game. I'm curious as to how that will turn out.


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I have honestly given up PVP along with many other players. I have extended my CREED until around drop 5 hits and test it out. PVP problems have been warned in beta and since launch. We tried to tell Carbine and people about the issues at hand. We even warned about the impending exodus. Now, it's a blight town. If nothing happens in drop 5, then I poof in smoke and disappear forever until this game gain a bigger PVP population.


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I don't have problems with people giving opinions. I have problems with the same folks latching on to every "What could help WS?" or "How is the game?" thread and parroting the same old BS about how the game is dying, or how F2P is the way to go, or hiding behind the Q4 2014 report, or saying that no one is ever on, or... you get the point here? I'd love to see an actual opinion, not just begging from people who want to play the game for free.

I can never understand your posts.


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I have a temper, is why. It's an issue. Plus I like posting in forums, it keeps me on my toes.


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