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You don't. You have to if you want to understand the very deep aspects provided for those who enjoy that kind of thing, but if it's not for you, there are more simolistic resources that will get you along just fine.


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Nobody here cares about newer players and everyone has to only conform to what the elitists/veterans believe is the 'right' way to do things. Enjoy piloting the sinking ship. Like the OP, I am 'done' in this thread. There is no getting through to certain people at this point no matter how many times it is repeated. Forums, random 'Enigma' guides that aren't accessible by general search terms, and most WildStar fan sites with useful updated info being only known to those who hear about it from others or are told about it from others (if they are lucky). Information is being purposefully withheld in an elitist fashion to further subdivide the WildStar playerbase so the 'hardcore' players can continue to tell others 'you are the problem' and 'go back to your other MMO'. It is secluded in toxic and newbie-hostile forums and yet time and again these silly forums are seen as a 'resource' for new players. Nope, they are not. It has to be on a webpage or somewhere that isn't giving RC4-only browser warnings so that newbies actually want to use it. It has to ideally be something mentioned in the game they're playing without having to alt-tab to do research for what should be entertainment. I mean it isn't boss fights or raiding, just something as basic as runing is so complex for so many reasons and so little is ever explained. But no the problem is the 'filthy casuals' and goodness forbid Carbine do some due diligence to put in some tutorials. Goodness forbid some of these elitists bother to post their info outside the RC4-only forums or outside of Reddit on a website that is accessible via general search terms. I'm sticking around for the housing, but the rest of you can sit in your cave here and argue back and forth among each other. The OP of this thread is vindicated with each and every post like the ones I quoted above. Completely lost people in their ivory towers can't possibly understand the struggles of anyone 'beneath' them. How dare they not be able to do X when I can do it just fine! Just practice! It is so easy you are LAZY for not doing it! And so on. Elitism is elitism. If it looks/walks/quacks like a duck then I am calling it a duck. Daluu you are not anywhere near as smart as you think you are. And if you or anyone you know is in charge of the Enigma guides, you might wanna spend less time playing forum-warrior to defend elitism/hardcore-only mentality and make those Enigma guides searchable on Google. (It is something called Search Engine Optimization, have fun with it).

Edited December 15, 2015 by FantasticCupcake


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Oh my god, Cupcake. "Information is hard/impossible to find!" "Everyone is elitist and withholding information!" "Everyone wants new players to conform to how they think the game should be played!" Yup, I was right. There is literally no winning with you. No, I am not elitist. In fact, I've taken great pains - even though you have been really annoying me in some of these threads - to keep my tone as civil and even as friendly as possible when addressing your concerns. But I give up. I spend a great deal of my time helping new players, running things that present no material benefit to me aside from them just being fun, answering questions when I have the answers, or pointing people to places that might have the answers if I don't know them. If you don't want to listen to anyone, then I guess there's nothing more to be said.
 * indicates a few readily accessible locations for information*
 * indicates they're more than happy to have discussions/teach people about things/help them gear/whatever*


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This is a single indidivuals perspective so take from it what you will. I have an extensive history with MMO's and "relatively" hardcore raiding. I started with EQ Velious and raided at the top end throughout the PoK expansion. In every expansionI cleared all the raid content (save Plane of Time B) while it was very relevant. The clears may not have been world firsts or even server firsts (though we did have 1 in Luclin), but the job got done. The same goes for WoW Vanilla through Cataclysm.......... Fast forward to Wildstar and I can tell you that the burden of knowledge and arbitrary difficulty of this game shows it's ugly face extremely quickly once you hit max level. Many like to equate Wildstar to Everquest in terms of difficulty, where nothing was handed to you at any point in the game and a lot of boss fights were puzzles unto themselves. EQ still succeeded though, so the question that should be asked is, what changed? My response to that would be that the players themselves didn't change, just the landscape did and players simply adapted to it. I had just as much fun (or more) and felt the same level of accomplishment slogging through a heroic raid in WoW for 2hrs a couple nights per week as I did smashing my face against Vex Thal for 6-7 hr clear attempts multiple nights per week. Does this directly address the issue of accessibility in this game? No, but if an experienced MMO vet like myself finds a large portion of this game obtrusive and uneccessarily complex/difficult.........what are the odds that less experienced and more causal players also share that same notion. I think a lot of people are also getting the wrong idea from me, I want this game to succeed very badly because I LOVE the art design and combat. Any game that holds the proverbial carrot in front a players face, but never allows said player (or makes it incredibly difficult) to reach that carrot is just going to have hard time succeeding in today's market............especially one that has already been given a second chance.


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this would make their break even with some profit probably around $3M - $4.5M per year, which seems highly possible. There are many companies today who operate on a lot less. hell there are companies that operate and never generate a profit, but investors keep it going because they believe in the products.


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