124949-can-we-get-buster-casey-replaced

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I'm calling bull* here. Pretty sure whatever was said warranted cleaning and deletion.


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I understand how important PvP is to games with PvP. I'm not an idiot, despite what I'm sure you're thinking. I'm completely aware. I would have as much of a problem with PvP going away as I do with you being rude to the mods, people who are doing their damn jobs. If PvP went away it'd be a serious gash to the game and I don't think any person in their right mind would debate that.


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So, in General Discussion, as long as you pretend you're an RP chua, pride yourself on your position as QA of another game, or needlessly discuss the same thing, over and over again, with veiled insults to each other, half of which don't even actively play the game--- that's totally fine and acceptable. But if you're a PvPer, who beats another PvPer, and throws down a little smacktalk, HERE COMES THE BANHAMMER, amirite?

Case in point. This entire post is an insult to the posters. IT degrades them, insults them, because they have differing opinions of what they think is valid to discuss. Chua Olivar is not a moderator. Chua Olivar isn't responsible for keeping players in line, or giving anecdotes / opinions about others. Chua Olivar feels the need to comment, insultingly, on a future locked thread. You see now why people get frustrated? It's because PvPers have actual concerns and arguments that deserve attention. Valid viewpoints, opinions, and critiques that deserve equal time. Other posters enjoy the ability to skirt these rules--- but PvPers are put down and receive harsher warnings, for less insulting things. Instigating fights, PvP--- that's Player Versus Player. If you can't handle people doing Player versus Player, they shouldn't have the same rules for the PvP forum at all.

But, that's a purely subjective thing here. If I tell someone to l2p, I know some people that would drop their head and play harder next time. I also know some people who would hit that report button and afk out of the BG. PvP needs a healthily thick skin. There is an ignore feature in game. There is an ignore feature on the forums. That's the purpose it serves--- to ignore someone who riles you up. Calling someone bad, and their whole guild bad, that's game PvP. Insulting someone over who they are outside of the game, or their personal lives, or where they're from--- those are against the ToS. /////////// ... and finally, part of the moderator's job is to inform and give information to the developers. They're here to help people find a constructive outlet for their ideas. Censoring the top players in PvP for posting their opinions, or banning guild leaders of the few remaining PvP centric guilds because they're frustrated over the state of PvP? That's not proper community interaction. Do you think people here would be so vulgar and insulting to CRB, if there was even something as simple as a Moderator hosted "PvP Update Timeline / Questionnaire?" Or a FAQ? OR a list of big issues in a collected space to give to the developers? No. The moderators are starting off-topic posts. They're functioning in useless general discussion posts that serve no purpose for feedback etc. The evidence is there--- while Buster Casey participates in Thaydfest, when PvPers see 0 positive interaction from the community team. PvPers don't feel as if the community team cares, nor supports them. The problem isn't just with the PvPers, it's the moderators and community teams as well. If the mods truly cared about PvPers, being fair, and being unbiased--- you'd see a lot more effort on their part channeling the "rage," or frustration into constructive and positive posts. The lack thereof is pretty clear. If the moderators and community team (when's the last time you heard the word PvP on the livestream?), took any interest in the PvP community, there wouldn't be such a divide. It wouldn't be an us vs them mentality. If the moderators ban away all the negative feedback / dissenting posts / opinionated and passionate posters, then they're not only hurting those players, they're failing to fulfill their own purpose of being a community team.


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And this isn't?

At least know both sides are swinging here.


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Again, competitive play does not warrant you being a dick to someone else. If that's how you need to "win", then you are doing it wrong.


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And yet we cannot call them out as well? Only to have them abuse their power to delete/ban our threads that do so? Fine lock it, but to delete and censor is so CHINA


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The hypocrisy is real here. I'm not sure if you ever played sports growing up, but I don't know very many PvPers that take personal offense to every single insult hurled at them. Ever seen a boxing match or MMA fight? Do you know what a rivalry is? Healthy rivalries don't just exist with people that speak to their opponent like they do their sunday school teacher. Heck, a lot of smack talk I'm used to interacting with / seeing is people jabbing with the intent to promote competition and urge their competitor / teammate to do better. No one actually hates anyone, (and it's pretty obvious when they do), but you can't play a PvP game and expect people to hold out their hands and say GG every single time they win.


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I think this might be a case of differing cultures that may not fully realize how the other works. American... well Americans in general... generally tend to not act in the same regard. The same goes for PvPers. Part of the life of a PvPer is smacktalk. I don't RP, but I could assume the closest it could be to what I suspect you spend your gametime with would be the RP aspect. Would you be upset if you were suddenly not permitted to never RP anymore? I am fairly certain you would. PvPers RP via smacktalk. It is part of the overarching IDEA of PvP.


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I was an official moderator for an MMORPG once(Fly for Fun) I've done his job before.

(IGN History Myojine->PangiNoon->FranBunnyFFXII)

Here's my perspective.

I think Casey abuses his power, and plays favorites.

I don't think he's an outstanidng member that upholds what a moderator should be doing.

The moderators are here are the number 1 reason I've cut back on posting here, I went from top 10 posters to next to nearly not posting because of their behavior.

I think Both Casey and chillia don't do their job properly. I think they're not capable of being proper moderators and that Carbine needs to replace them.


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Kill confirmed


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If they don't completley delete this thread, when someone needs a good example of irony- I will show them this.


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Epeen wars! :D


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It's a way of abiding by the forum code of conduct ;) Instead of acting like a mentally challenged yob.


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US foreign policy in a nutshell xD


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If I'm on ts or speaking to my bf i'm the same. I'm quite civil when it comes to speaking to exiles though (except for the exiles I've befriended :D) Trust me, I believe smack talk is an important part of pvp, it keeps you motivated, but under the code of conduct on the forum it can't be used here, which is why I ask my guild members not to be rude on the forums. But asking a moderator to be removed just for enforcing the rules is silly imho.


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When it's done face to face, you can see and hear the person doing it, you can see and hear their intent, it's a bit different. Stuff like that gets lost in text. Context matters, situation matters. I don't know the people I'm PvP'ing with/against from Adam. I have no personal and emotional ties to them. I don't have that filter in the game. Anonymity causes what would be "all in good fun" to be toxic. Don't get me wrong, I know exactly where you're coming from :)  And in that particular case, I agree with you.  I just don't think when it comes to online gaming it is the same thing, and is most often not for "good fun" but for less savory reasons.


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I agree, but it doesn't only apply to PvPers, raiders also like to joke around, its healthy for the community and competition, but in Wildstar forums, joking is forbidden. I find Buster Casey in particular to be biased when doing his job, which makes a bad mod. When i say biased i mean, if a joke is not in his style, its offensive, "Here's a warning for you, next time be more like me". Due to their strict and biased policies, i am finding Wildstar forums to be quite dull, where the only things allowed are feedback, complaints, or morning coffee threads, that one somehow is allowed to stay in General Discussions instead of Offtopic (bias). I sorely miss the fun times i had in RIFT forums where there are times for serious feedback, and there are times for joking and having fun with our competition and community. The community was stronger because of that. For now, we have twitch chat as an alternative, which is enough i guess. I found it interesting how that one time i was joking with you on twitch chat Eclips, made a pic and we all enjoyed it and moved on in that chat, then i posted it on the forums and got 2 warning points for it, when even you whom the pic was directed at were not offended.


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