147398-why-is-nobody-addressing-the-issue-with-runing

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I'm mad that it will take literally months to finish one person's full rune set. Does this not make sense to anyone? Last time I finished GA I think we got at max 6 Major Pure set foci. Every week on a friday our group raids for about 5 hours. We may or may not defeat omhna depending on which people are online in our guild. Still following me? Good. If we're being generous, lets say we get about 8 MAJOR SET Foci on average from a full 5 hour raid run. Lets unrealistically say these 8 foci are distributed to one person of the group EACH WEEKLY RAID. ONE person would have to raid for 3 Fridays straight to be able to fill out their full 21 rune set full of armor. 3 Weeks per person multiplied by 20 people means 60 weeks of freeing up our fridays for 5 hours to fill out everyone's gear. This, ignoring the fact that we have to swap people out on Fridays because of scheduling issues, that leaves us about 10 people that still need their runes. But hey, maybe one of our guildies missed the raid on friday and instead chooses to buy the materials from the CX. Alright, so that's currently 8p 40g on the auction house per pure major focus. 8p 40g x 21 pure set runes = 176.4 plat. Oh but what if he needs class set runes instead? Those are going for 27 Plat currently on the CX, no big deal right? 27p x 21 = 567 plat. Totally doable. So, all he has to do is farm pvp for a while. About 45 gold a round if he loses, 75 if he wins, our guildie would have to win a solid 132 PvP matches or lose 392. Alright, no problem. Dude has a dick the size of the great wall of China, wins all 132 matches. Halls of the Bloodsworn takes about 15 minutes on a complete stomp, 45 if there's a stalemate, and lets say there are people queuing nonstop 24hrs a day 7 days a week (COMPLETELY REALISTIC). So 15 x 132 = 1980 minutes or 33 hours non stop, no *cupcake*, no food, no nothing player vs player action to get those *cupcake* runes for his PvE raid gear. Oh no? What's that? He needs class foci instead? Alright well that's only 756 rounds he has to win. 15 x 756 = 11340 hours, 7.85 days. Fella is practically a starcraft player. Oh, did I mention there's only 4 Major set foci on the CX exchange right now? That might be an issue too, but we won't factor that in, because we're being (COMPLETELY REALISTIC). Not everyone has the time to devote to joining a raiding circle and farming their ass off, let alone the fact you can't even start a new raid if you're currently doing one with your own guild mates. People shouldn't be forced to play PvP to acquire their PvE gear, there's a reason why each server has a PvE and PvP realm, so that people can CHOOSE what kind of content they want to experience. Not to mention this doesn't even cover raids beyond GA and the cost to switch over to divine foci. There's no "ohh huh well why don't you play more instead of complaining, carbine is flawless in everything they do, you should quit your job to raid every day like me". The math is there and unless I've forgotten to carry over a zero there's no way that you can ask someone who plays semi casually to fulfill this kind of requirement to experience their end game content.


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Edited November 23, 2015 by Ufalicious


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Yep progressed when classes were not as powerful, and to do bis runes still cost 200+ plat to fully rune your gear. Oh, and you couldn't reroll all your slots but once, so you had to plan ahead way more, and than you get a new piece of gear, and have to redo all your runes once more to make sure you have the correct stats. People were min/max than too and ttk was way longer so the min/max was way more important than it is now. Truly, all you need is blue or if you really want to shoot for the set bonuses, use superior runes. That 10% difference in stats is minor compared to understanding the fight. Your on SD I assume, so that means, learn to not move with purge, tanks get good fast and understand transitioning and kiting mobs to correct place with dps knowing where the tank is. Oh yeah, purge, did I mention purge? Honestly, don't put majors into your gear until you have the bis for that tier and as you progress thru GA, your guild will slowly get those. If you kill Ohmna in 2-3 week, obviously you wont have the gear and you obviously geared enough to do SD soon by farming GA a couple weeks.


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I don't think the gap is huge between players with the best runes vs people with very good runes. And skill trumps all.


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What kind of hellish MMO is this that demands players grind for a year to compete on a level playing field? A good MMO would have fresh, new content released during that time instead of prolonging the treadmill with this stupid shit. Grinding a year for anything makes for a god awful, tedius, boring game. . . a game that's made purely to entice idiots to throw good money after a horrible design. Woo hoo! Have the time of your life grinding for a year or spend hundreds of dollars on CREDD and buy those runes.


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