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The Great Wildstar Depression of 2014. We need FDR to pull us out.


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this is the stupidest thing i have ever seen.... well if its like that then ill have to make 2-3 other accounts too, let them run on my crap pc and join the bot battle...? if you cant beat them join em i guess, right? on google you search and get hundrets of diffrent bots and your not allowed to call them out so there is actually something done about it? All the bots i reported are still farming, all the friends i tried to show the game, gave it up.... And all that bla bla bla, that they are hacked accounts. i really dont give a crap. if people are dumb and get hacked, they should be punished. Like you guys say, that i could call everyone out and blame people i dislike, everyone accused of botting will deny it. Of course they wont log in with the same ip as they use with their main account. thats what VPN is for. It will allways look like as if they were hacked.


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It's not so much "once and awhile" (once in a while fyi), but more like one node every half hour... What you said would be the equivalent of me saying, well I don't find the pvp bots annoying at all. The pvp bots don't matter because you still win once in a while. Now don't get me wrong, I hate bots in all forms and I'm not saying one is worse than the other. Any bot/hack is a detriment to this game and they need to be taken care of asap.


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They are focused on the strain drop at the moment. Once its done im sure they will do something, but for now, they are more focused on content... (i have no idea why...)


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They're supposed to be doing drops monthly, based on their plans. So after the strain part 1 there's the strain part 2. Are we going to sit here and go, "well, they'll deal with the botters after the next drop...oh...wait, the next one after that"?


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No, it's more like building them from wood and then they burn. One thing you haven't seen much if any of in Wildstar is "rubberbanding"; I would submit that this is because the game uses client-side position reporting like most action MMOs do. So it isn't so much that they don't have tools for catching people who hack or aren't trying to, it's more that the way the hackers are doing it is baked into the way the game is built.


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Yes, because no one ever looks in News and Announcements for anything. :rolleyes:

The other method is: Google authenticator. As provided to your PC by the winauth program. Some dev should really post an official thread about this. Link: http://code.google.com/p/winauth/ One way of dealing with the botters is to remove their reason for botting. I say take out the ability to send money between accounts (can still send to alts in your account), limit the amount of gold players can take from a guild bank until they've been in for a week, and prevent the sale of items on the AH or via C.O.D. for absurd amounts or low level (level 10 can't try to sell something for 500 gold, and nobody can sell a protostar sandwich for a plat). If there's no easy way for the gold farmers to sell their stuff, they'll move on to greener pastures. Might take some tweeking, but since nobody but gold sellers transfers the amounts that the gold sellers do, some level of these should greatly inconvenience the botters without doing so to the average player.


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yep we need kotaku, ign, edge, tentonhammer, lots of big game website reporting it.. then we might see some action being taken.


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we should have a way to link a youtube video or recording to a support team and with that evidence we want that account suspended almost straight away (within the hour if im honest).. feel free to investigate and decide if it warrants a perm-ban but anyone caught hacking with video evidence should be suspended straight away NOT WEEKS LATER. I suspect the community will be willing to do alot of the work if it means that we see a swift end to a bot when discovered.


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Call me paranoid, call me what ever you like, but we are talking about NCsoft here and they have a lot of dirty tricks in their playbook, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if this bot epidemic serves them in one way or another.


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Yeah, more talk and still no action. Until we (the playerbase) start seeing the bots we've been reporting disappear its a non-starter.


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I've only seen one, and that was fairly recently. I don't doubt that they're out there, though, generally in higher level zones. That seems to be the problem is that they crowd out the upper level competition for nodes. It's already hard enough on the competition front, what with more people starting to trickle into the 40s and 50s and those needing relatively more supplies to craft with. Essentially, botters aren't really pissing people off with botting per se as much as using some movement hacks to give them a very unfair advantage. That's why people are so angry about this in particular. Unfortunately, as long as people are buying gold from RMTs, we will have these issues. It's just particularly hotted up within the last week or so. Best thing to do is hunker down and make sure you're using the 2 step authenticator on your phone or after buying a token. It's a pain in the ass, but it's the only way to give yourself some manner of protection from account hackers. A good general rule of thumb for addons is that if it's just changing what you see, it's legal. If it's doing things for you, it isn't. So if you've got an addon that makes ore nodes show up with a bright glowy halo so you can more easily see them, that's legal. If you get an addon that walks you there and mines it, it isn't.


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Then please give us ONE PLACE to discuss in General Discussion.


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While I get the whole 'find out how they are doing it and stop it from the source' method, and believe me it makes perfect sense, wouldn't it also work to do some grunt work and get ingame and trim some of the fat so they aren't as rampant? I just reported 5 bots within 10 minutes in Farside, to me it would seem like a GM would be able to do the same thing.


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they don't legitimatly buy accounts or pay subsrciptions, they hack accounts, use stolen credit cards and compromised paypal accounts etc. botters, hackers, cheaters, goldfarmers cost the company money. they don't make profit from them at all. Not just NCSOFT but blizzard, Trion, EA, whoever. Their profits are hurt by these exploiting gold farmers.


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