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No matter how you try to spin it, the end result is the exact same thing: someone still gets a piece of high end gear that they did not personally earn.


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I'm annoyed because unlike you, i was here the entire time, subbed and online ingame from day 1 to f2p and beyond (since i wont unsub even after f2p)... but i most likely will be ineligible due to silly reasons. Carbine goal is to reward loyal costumers who had been with them all along since release, but they are failing to do so because they are going to miss a large chunk of those loyal costumers that infact were here since day 1 but will slip under the radar due to Carbine lazy implementation of checking who should be eligible and who shouldn't.


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It plays an animation and your Playable Until time in the website account is incremented by a month.

That seems like a really weird to have used CREDD for game time. I was buying CREDD from month to month, but using it immediately in game as soon as I bought it. Its not like you lost game time by using CREDD before the last one ran out.

It seems to me that they made a conscious choice to not use a recurring subscription, so I don't know why they should be rewarded for that.

I'd buy this argument more if there weren't already items that new players will never be able to obtain (Highwayman's costume, Plasmatic Hyberboard mount, spaceship house).

On one hand, you intentionally chose to not use a recurring subscription. On the other hand, you've been online every day so if your sub did lapse it was for minutes or hours. Youukon's latest post indicated that the timeframe being considered was a day ("without a single day of interruption"), while other places say it has to be continuous. Its certainly worth a ticket once everything goes out, but the months of waiting from now till then without knowing how that will fall out would certainly frustrate me.

And crafting vouchers!

I wouldn't be surprised if it is a technical issue that would prevent them from making exceptions. I imagine someone is writing some database script to determine who is eligible for what that they will run during the downtime for this update and that whatever field they are looking for only records the presence of inactivity and not the length.


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Because even the truly dedicated are not getting it due to issues Carbine/NCsoft account services had themselves. Or the CREDD service. Because of the lack of tech that carbine has to look over these momentary lapses that were completely out of player control. People who never quit the game even for a day are not going to get anything. I'm not even entirely sure that people care specifically about the mount in that situation.

I recall reading that subscribers will get some Ncoin as loyalty rewards. Ncoin are basically Omnibits.


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You are missing the point Shoogli no guild/circle making/inviting because of gold sellers spamming you with invite Arena teams can be made without a sub and they can also spam you with those annoying invites So.... what do they accomplish?


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I'm not missing anything. Guild, circle creations are *not* behind a sub wall : it's in the FAQ. For starter... As for arenas, gold spammers don't take the time to lvl a character to 50 to have it erased minutes after the spam, this is why it's different. What they used to do, and that no longer works, because of the authenticator, is hack a lvl 50 already existing account to spam with arena invites. That's the past. The reason why pure F2P players can't create and invite to circles/guilds is indeed to avoid a spam which is easily created by low lvl toons. Again, Arenas can't be created that fast since only lvl 50. And again and again there *will* be free players not subbing that will be able to create/invite into guilds and circles, just is the amount of time it takes is prohibitive in regards to having it erased if spamming.


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According to the Livestream, you accrue Loyalty points by spending money on subs/boxes/credds. So yeah... Free players can't get Loyalty perks without paying for the stuff that gives you signature... Seems you have to buy CREDD with money, but you don't have to use it?


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I honestly wouldn't call this game grindy for anything but rep.


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