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I believe EQ2 has had 3 or more expansions since going F2P. Not sure I'd consider that move a failure.


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I hadn't heard or read that. Do you have a link handy to the source for that? I'm not doubting what you say at all, I'm just really interested in reading it.


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I can confirm they've said that. Carbine would rather the game shuts down than goes F2P. Which doesn't mean they'll get their wish, or that NCSoft necessarily cares whether the game is successful or not, they only care about how much profit it generates. If NCSoft really thinks they can double their money on Wildstar going F2P, believe me, it doesn't matter whether Wildstar has ten thousand subs or ten million.


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I believe it was an interview with Carbine. I can try to find it on lunch. I recall them hearing them say it, though. I think it was Gaffney.

Hey, I'm a reasonable guy with a reputation for avoiding hyperbole and vitriol. Even I think NCSoft is like Al Pacino's Satan from The Devil's Advocate.


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Plus, I think if they do go to some form of F2P, it would make sense to do a hybrid model where subscribers (including folks playing through use of CREDD) get free access to DLC (content Drops) as long as they remain subbed, with the F2P crowd either having to buy the Drops a la carte or not having access to the content. That type of hybrid model will allow the current CREDD system to remain intact, because nothing would change for folks that chose to remain subbed, and the F2P folks that come into the game could either accept playing the base game or buy content drops as their progression advanced to that level (and they could even sub or buy CREDD.)


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If I recall I am contractually obligated to greatly dislike all buck-eyes (We are! ;3).... But I make a hefty exception for you all... Honestly Nott, why is F2P the worst thing? I still play SWTOR, and it's still... gasp.... fun. They keep adding new content; just added a great housing system... at least it would be great if it was half of what W*'s is... but GSF is really fun. They also made 200+ million off it last year... so I would never in a million years call SWTOR in its current state a 'failure'. The cash shop isn't really B2W either since having a sub gives you shop currency; the only folks who lose out are the true free players. As long as W* is getting new content and running I consider it a win. In my book, the only failure is when your game is no longer online (e.g. WAR). Your mileage may vary, but I seriously don't get all the 'failure' talk which is by and large arbitrary.


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