101704-forum-issue-guild-recruitment

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I can pass that information along, and see if I can't get more clarification as to the specifics of the change besides what I've already posted above (note, I'm the messenger here and was just trying to help clarify. I didn't make the change personally).


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The requests were made by a few LOUD WHINERS. That's it. It's great to know that Carbine are listening to the squeaky wheel that DOESNT need fixing.


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Incompetence is exactly what this particular move is full of. Yes people wanted recruitment separated out, but separated by server, not region. This was childish in its simplicity and the reaction should have been anticipated.


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when  we  casually throw bricks at  you, that is a  message  we want  passed along. just  pick  up the  brick and  toss it  vigorously  at the  appropriate  "top men" also the reason   realm  forums are full  of  recruitment post and  not   community  chatter is because  no one of  merit   gives a  damn about   using  the  realm  forums; or  really  building  realm community outside of static groups for  content.


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Lol or not xD

Edited July 25, 2014 by Niliana


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Oh, see ... now that's racist. EQUALITY!!!!! ;)


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Forums themselves are ancient forms of social media. I know I could have, if I'd wanted to, been in a guild already without ever having checked the forums. And we have to be honest, forums are old hat themselves. We are a small portion of the actual playerbase that consider this a primary form of communication for fans of the game. I mean, five years ago, that might have been untrue, but these days forums are for a lot of us old fogies that never made the leap completely to the new bevy of social media, and are trying to follow links from guild recruitment threads here to the actual guild forums. Unless there are a complete deluge of threads in that one forum, I don't see this being a crippling problem.


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Dunno if it's been posted yet, but a big reason was to hide the lack of activity on the dead servers and smash it all together to create increased perceived activity. Like the reverse of instancing. Or zones. Or line-of-sight.


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Then how about a good reason that server specific sub-forums weren't created for guild recruitment instead of mashing hundreds of guild recruitment posts together. We have recruited well over 80% of our guild members from the forums. This won't happen any more even with tags. This was a bad change and one of the very few things I would complain about in this game.


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So you can post on the realm forums to... 1) Advertise your tradeskill. 2) Personally brag about stuff (no guild bragging allowed, that's guild forums). 3) Politely trash-talk people with snobbery and your pinkie extended. 4) Talk about the latest teleporting bot you've seen. Guilds are a huge part of any online game, this really makes very little sense.


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Al right. Can we get the German mod to organize the English speaking guild sections? They seem to know what they're doing. It would be a MUCH better option to have made separate recruitment sub-forums for each realm, than what we have now. This is starting to remarkably remind me of Blizzard's stance of "No, no, no, no, no, no. You can't possibly want THAT. You don't know what you want. Let us tell you what you want." And let me tell you, that's a very scary feeling. Forum recruitment is still a very important part of any realm community. Merging them all together is a mistake. Please listen.


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I know a large number of people, friends, current and previous guildies included, who don't frequent the forums except for when they need to - recruitment being the top reason to do so (and various guild announcements, news etc. as far as guild forums are concerned). You really want a static media for this purpose, spamming twitter, reddit or facebook seems like a lackluster way to go about it. Most guilds advertise in the game chat nowadays, linking to their forums - perhaps elaborating on that aspect, adding customization and functionality to the game UI would be a better choice. What I can foresee happening on the forums after this change is a sleuth of topics with one question or another relating to guilds and recruitment.


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Well that should fix the issue at least. :)  Now we can be a big happy family again.


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Thank you! <3


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I think that's a great solution (and the one that should have been implemented in the first place.) With recruitment posts entirely outside of the realm forums, there'd be no reason for a lot of users to visit them. This way, everyone still heads to their realm forums, but there's less clutter for those who want to talk about other things.


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/hugs everyone


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I knew I liked you for a reason...


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When I started reading at the beginning of the thread this was the first thing that I thought... "Why not just make them sub forums if you want to separate?" It is a lot cleaner and easier to use for all involved.


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Well, that sucks. :/ Don't you guys have admin tools that allow you to undo those mass moves back to their originating forums? Had those available on all the forums I was admin of, poke the main man perhaps? If you have to do it by hand...it's going to take a while indeed. Thanks for making the change and for listening, regardless.


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